A bit disappointed about iPhone 3G
I was expecting the new one to have a higher resolution camera (3.2MP with a flash, or at least a night light for night pics)
IcyHot: If you're still hanging around these forums I want to ask you. Is the camera on the K850i a lot better than the one on my K790a? Because the camera on my K790a drive people NUTS!
IcyHot: If you're still hanging around these forums I want to ask you. Is the camera on the K850i a lot better than the one on my K790a? Because the camera on my K790a drive people NUTS!
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Anxiovert said:
I was expecting the new one to have a higher resolution camera (3.2MP with a flash, or at least a night light for night pics)
IcyHot: If you're still hanging around these forums I want to ask you. Is the camera on the K850i a lot better than the one on my K790a? Because the camera on my K790a drive people NUTS!
And you are surprised....For $200 what did you expect. $200 is a great price for the IPhone in its current state.......Thats more like it.
$600 was "Just Fools Rusuhing in" Lets seee a better version of the phone for 1/3 the cost....YEah...Fools Rushing In explains it.
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get a DARE and get all that plus it is faster , lighter and better in touch responsiveness, and you wont need to wait for apps because everything you need is going to be available out the box.
DVD play back FTW
DVD play back FTW
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IamTheGodfather said:
get a DARE and get all that plus it is faster , lighter and better in touch responsiveness, and you wont need to wait for apps because everything you need is going to be available out the box.
DVD play back FTW
Are you touting that Rev A is faster than HSPA, or are you commenting on the processor speed of an as-yet unreleased and untested device?
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ralph_on_me said:IamTheGodfather said:
get a DARE and get all that plus it is faster , lighter and better in touch responsiveness, and you wont need to wait for apps because everything you need is going to be available out the box.
DVD play back FTW
Are you touting that Rev A is faster than HSPA, or are you commenting on the processor speed of an as-yet unreleased and untested device?
He probably though the new Star Wars movies were going to kick serious ass too... 🤣
I love the way people build up the devices they've never used.
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I have been using the device for almost a month....sorry but we do have a beta program here.
and Rev A is faster than 3g....last time I looked that is what the YPhone is using .
wow, come out the shell nerdling and smell the real world.
and Rev A is faster than 3g....last time I looked that is what the YPhone is using .
wow, come out the shell nerdling and smell the real world.
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Sorry but Rev A is not a compelling reason to buy another locked down Verizon dumb phone with no possibility for real enterprise 3rd party applications. This is just another iPhone knock off that can't even claim the enterprise capabilities of the upcoming 3G iPhone.
FYI HSDPA (which is what the iPhone will use) is up to 3.6Mpbs where as Rev A MAXES OUT at 3.1. Additionally, HSDPA is actually capable of 14-16mb download speeds so In the end HSDPA has the greater capability. All those Europeans currently using video calling on their handsets aren't doing it on EVDO networks.
So in the future, you might want to get your facts straight before you call this nerd out of his shell.
FYI HSDPA (which is what the iPhone will use) is up to 3.6Mpbs where as Rev A MAXES OUT at 3.1. Additionally, HSDPA is actually capable of 14-16mb download speeds so In the end HSDPA has the greater capability. All those Europeans currently using video calling on their handsets aren't doing it on EVDO networks.
So in the future, you might want to get your facts straight before you call this nerd out of his shell.
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You are correct.
HSPA is what AT&T is rolling out for the 3G iPhone launch but it's current 3.6Mbps is still faster than than the max capability of Rev A at 3.1Mbps and gotten the leg up on WiMax. HSPA has the capability of 14Mbps. Even at the current 3.6 mark it still pwns EVDO Rev A.
Thanks for the correction.
HSPA is what AT&T is rolling out for the 3G iPhone launch but it's current 3.6Mbps is still faster than than the max capability of Rev A at 3.1Mbps and gotten the leg up on WiMax. HSPA has the capability of 14Mbps. Even at the current 3.6 mark it still pwns EVDO Rev A.
Thanks for the correction.
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evilhomer said:
You are correct.
HSPA is what AT&T is rolling out for the 3G iPhone launch but it's current 3.6Mbps is still faster than than the max capability of Rev A at 3.1Mbps and gotten the leg up on WiMax. HSPA has the capability of 14Mbps. Even at the current 3.6 mark it still pwns EVDO Rev A.
Thanks for the correction.
5 YEARS AWAY
5 YEARS
AND YOU GUYS ARE REFERING TO IT LIKE IT IS HERE.
5 YEARS AWAY
ABOUT AS MUCH TIME AS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR GAYTT TO CATCH THE NEW WIRELESS LEADER.
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OH AND FOR THE ULITIMATE PWNAGE
Verizon is 3 years away from launching HSPA network wide
PWnED again
Verizon is 3 years away from launching HSPA network wide
PWnED again
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IamTheGodfather said:
OH AND FOR THE ULITIMATE PWNAGE
Verizon is 3 years away from launching HSPA network wide
PWnED again
You are so messed up it's not even funny. The only thing Verizon is 3 years away from launching is whatever Blackberry is lauched THIS year on every other network.
AT&T and ALREADY launched is HSPA network so three years behind everyone one else is par for the course for Verizon. What you don't seem to understand and would if you did a little research on the technology that you are defending is that EVDO Rev A CAPS out at 3.1Mbps. Verizon has that capped WAY down. Your Rev A at it's BEST, which VZW won't let you have (like their UNLIMITED limited data) can't touch HSPA low en...
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evilhomer said:...IamTheGodfather said:
OH AND FOR THE ULITIMATE PWNAGE
Verizon is 3 years away from launching HSPA network wide
PWnED again
You are so messed up it's not even funny. The only thing Verizon is 3 years away from launching is whatever Blackberry is lauched THIS year on every other network.
AT&T and ALREADY launched is HSPA network so three years behind everyone one else is par for the course for Verizon. What you don't seem to understand and would if you did a little research on the technology that you are defending is that EVDO Rev A CAPS out at 3.1Mbps. Verizon has that capped WAY down. Your Rev A at it's BEST, which VZW won't let you have (like their UNLIMITED l
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The fact that you can't make one post without all the silly name calling tells me that your a child of mind if not body.
You still haven't posted any facts other then your own misconceptions about your carrier, But again, if you'd Google your statements you'd see that you are wrong.
Currently, AT&T has the largest subscriber base. That will probably change since VZW just spent a gazillion dollars to buy Alltel so they would have some sort of bragging rights again.
In several articles I've read on DSL Reports, Sprint's data has consistently kicked VZW's butt in EVDO speed test as well as cost. VZW also enforced caps on the amount of "unlimited" data you can use as well. They actually had to change their wording of Unlimited becaus...
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You still haven't posted any facts other then your own misconceptions about your carrier, But again, if you'd Google your statements you'd see that you are wrong.
Currently, AT&T has the largest subscriber base. That will probably change since VZW just spent a gazillion dollars to buy Alltel so they would have some sort of bragging rights again.
In several articles I've read on DSL Reports, Sprint's data has consistently kicked VZW's butt in EVDO speed test as well as cost. VZW also enforced caps on the amount of "unlimited" data you can use as well. They actually had to change their wording of Unlimited becaus...
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Dude, you're an idiot. Just give it up.
You are clearly making the mistake of confusing HSPA and LTE... LTE is the standard that will be launching in a few years that Verizon committed to.
You are clearly making the mistake of confusing HSPA and LTE... LTE is the standard that will be launching in a few years that Verizon committed to.
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AT&T has (as in at this moment, currently, right now) already launched HSPA. Where there's 3G, there's HSPA.
Verizon is NOT going to launch HSPA. They'll launch LTE simultaneously with AT&T.
Verizon is NOT going to launch HSPA. They'll launch LTE simultaneously with AT&T.
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HSPA was "officially" launched earlier this month. That's June of 2008, just like all the reports have been saying for the past year. You've apparently missed something in your four years of college and seven years experience in Verizon wireless. If you're in a technical industry, you have to keep up with your independent study or else you'll fall behind. Apparently, in this case, you're about five years behind. This isn't even forward thought, it's just reading the headlines. It's current events.
Perhaps you're confused HSPA and LTE? It's the common path of both ATT and Verizon for 4G. That should be around 2013, which is five years away. HSPA is 3G and LTE is 4G.
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Perhaps you're confused HSPA and LTE? It's the common path of both ATT and Verizon for 4G. That should be around 2013, which is five years away. HSPA is 3G and LTE is 4G.
People have already posted the hypothetical speeds of Rev A and HSPA (...
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"RevA actual field data speeds:
Downlink 450-800 Kbps
Uplink 300-400 Kbps"
Not exactly true. I used Speakeasy and Speedtest just to check my DL and UL speeds and I never got bellow 800kbps on the DL while the highest was 1.5mb/s (Average around 1.1) and 350kbps on the UL with the highest of 700kbps (Average around 550kbps.)
Downlink 450-800 Kbps
Uplink 300-400 Kbps"
Not exactly true. I used Speakeasy and Speedtest just to check my DL and UL speeds and I never got bellow 800kbps on the DL while the highest was 1.5mb/s (Average around 1.1) and 350kbps on the UL with the highest of 700kbps (Average around 550kbps.)
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"Wireless leader" only because it bought out alltel and will now force them into less budget-friendly deals. No more My Circle plans, of course. I'm sure the new customers are going to be ecstatic about that. At least att phones aren't crippled and don't have the same lousy, outdated UI on all of their phones. And at least there's more variety in the types of phones. And more flexibility to travel worldwide. Hmmm, not so sure about the "wireless leader" label.
WS
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weirdscientist said:
"Wireless leader" only because it bought out alltel and will now force them into less budget-friendly deals. No more My Circle plans, of course. I'm sure the new customers are going to be ecstatic about that. At least att phones aren't crippled and don't have the same lousy, outdated UI on all of their phones. And at least there's more variety in the types of phones. And more flexibility to travel worldwide. Hmmm, not so sure about the "wireless leader" label.
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Some people ...no.... a lot of people buy goods and service just becasue of the Number One status. They buy those good and service because MOST other people made the same choice. So instead of doing their own research, they f...
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evilhomer said:
Sorry but Rev A is not a compelling reason to buy another locked down Verizon dumb phone with no possibility for real enterprise 3rd party applications. This is just another iPhone knock off that can't even claim the enterprise capabilities of the upcoming 3G iPhone.
FYI HSDPA (which is what the iPhone will use) is up to 3.6Mpbs where as Rev A MAXES OUT at 3.1. Additionally, HSDPA is actually capable of 14-16mb download speeds so In the end HSDPA has the greater capability. All those Europeans currently using video calling on their handsets aren't doing it on EVDO networks.
So in the future, you might want to get your facts straight before you call this nerd out of his shell.
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the_eraser said:
you're going to eat your words very, VERY soon.
LMAO
yeah thats what you have been saying for your 3g support LOL...and we all seen how that worked out for ya, we maintain MORE 3g and Rev A support than ALL CARRIERS COMBINED .
PWNED
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IamTheGodfather said:...evilhomer said:
Sorry but Rev A is not a compelling reason to buy another locked down Verizon dumb phone with no possibility for real enterprise 3rd party applications. This is just another iPhone knock off that can't even claim the enterprise capabilities of the upcoming 3G iPhone.
FYI HSDPA (which is what the iPhone will use) is up to 3.6Mpbs where as Rev A MAXES OUT at 3.1. Additionally, HSDPA is actually capable of 14-16mb download speeds so In the end HSDPA has the greater capability. All those Europeans currently using video calling on their handsets aren't doing it on EVDO networks.
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IamTheGodfather said:
I have been using the device for almost a month....sorry but we do have a beta program here.
and Rev A is faster than 3g....last time I looked that is what the YPhone is using .
wow, come out the shell nerdling and smell the real world.
not really. also, does Rev A run voice and data or just data? is that why verizon is so far behind on technology that they still can't release video share or video calling? they may have a wider roll out of 3g, but they are still a little behind the tech curve.
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crackberry said:IamTheGodfather said:
I have been using the device for almost a month....sorry but we do have a beta program here.
and Rev A is faster than 3g....last time I looked that is what the YPhone is using .
wow, come out the shell nerdling and smell the real world.
not really. also, does Rev A run voice and data or just data? is that why verizon is so far behind on technology that they still can't release video share or video calling? they may have a wider roll out of 3g, but they are still a little behind the tech curve.
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EvDO Rev A does run VoIP. Look at Sprint's new PTT (QChat). 1xRTT, EvDO Rev.O run parallel on data and voice.
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Hilarious that people are dissappointed with the new iphone even though it's 1/3 of the price from the first phone's release in 2007 and it actually added GPS and 3G, 2 incredible additions. You guys are ridiculous.
If you want a phone with everything, but a little less fun day to day, go on ebay, buy an N95-3 for about $450. Then you can never complain about features again.
If you want a phone with everything, but a little less fun day to day, go on ebay, buy an N95-3 for about $450. Then you can never complain about features again.
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pepsijunky said:
Hilarious that people are dissappointed with the new iphone even though it's 1/3 of the price from the first phone's release in 2007 and it actually added GPS and 3G, 2 incredible additions. You guys are ridiculous.
If you want a phone with everything, but a little less fun day to day, go on ebay, buy an N95-3 for about $450. Then you can never complain about features again.
Thats exactly what I did...LOL.
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I had the Nokia, really enjoyed the features like camera, video, 3G, cheap data, etc etc. But for me I want a full keyboard, I want a bigger brighter screen, I want either a Blackberry Bold or an iPhone 3G. My preference.
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pepsijunky said:
I had the Nokia, really enjoyed the features like camera, video, 3G, cheap data, etc etc. But for me I want a full keyboard, I want a bigger brighter screen, I want either a Blackberry Bold or an iPhone 3G. My preference.
Yeah I read your review. The N95 like any phone is only as good as the features you use. I don't text message so QWeRTY is not important to me. I have T9 down for the few notes I take or messages I send. I do use the Media functions heavily though daily.
I think the iPhone at $200 is a slam dunk. I would get one as a back up if they did not force a $30 data plan. Im paying $15 for UL data and I don't see what the $15 extra will buy me. I certainly do not believe the...
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Agreed about your data plan, $15 is incredible. I will tell you this, once you try the iphone's browser with 3G or wifi, you'll love it. It's really incredible. I also really enjoy google maps, it feels right.
I ended up selling my N95 to some lucky Canadian on Tuesday, $435, sometimes I miss it, sometimes I don't. The Curve I have right now is perfect for email and texting so it's all good. I wish my friends and family weren't such heavy texters, then I wouldn't need a full keyboard.
I ended up selling my N95 to some lucky Canadian on Tuesday, $435, sometimes I miss it, sometimes I don't. The Curve I have right now is perfect for email and texting so it's all good. I wish my friends and family weren't such heavy texters, then I wouldn't need a full keyboard.
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pepsijunky said:
Agreed about your data plan, $15 is incredible. I will tell you this, once you try the iphone's browser with 3G or wifi, you'll love it. It's really incredible. I also really enjoy google maps, it feels right.
I ended up selling my N95 to some lucky Canadian on Tuesday, $435, sometimes I miss it, sometimes I don't. The Curve I have right now is perfect for email and texting so it's all good. I wish my friends and family weren't such heavy texters, then I wouldn't need a full keyboard.
I never used Google Maps or Nokia Maps. I got the GARmin XT SW so I cannot comment on those . I did not want to pay $10 a month for Voice NAv so I bought the Garmin Application. Turned the phone into ...
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I wish I didn't text so much and I wish e-mail hadn't become an instant thing for me. I guess I need to slow down a little.
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AvgJoe: I picked up an N95-4 and it is pretty sweet. However, I just can't live without the qwerty and suck at T9. I do have the Garmin XT maps on it though and it rocks. Here's hoping they have something just as cool for the iPhone. I'm going to miss the Nokia when it goes back to Best Buy next week though.
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The disappointment of the new iphone lies in the fact that it is still not a multitasking smartphone. Yes its nice that they addressed the 3G and GPS issue, but honestly, shouldn't have that been in the original phone in the first place, along with a good camera and video for $600. They did add Exchange server support for push email which is good but it should be able to multitask like a Symbian or Windows Mobile based smartphone. Also corporate users are still going to prefer a physical qwerty keyboard like the Blackberries, Treos, E71 and Ipaq 910 have over the touchscreen keyboard of the iphone. Maybe the third generation iphone will be the charmer...the second generation still falls a little flat.
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people will never stop buying the Iphone no matter what features is has or what features it doesn't have....no matter how much the phone costs, and no matter how much the service cost....people will always want it cause Steve Jobs is a Marketing machine, and he knows exactly how consumers think...thier will always be a better phone....blackberry has been making phones for years and they are just now coming out with a 3G blackberry, they just started making them with WIFI and GPS all in one....but they did make a WIFI blackberry with out GPS first, why did they do that cause they know people will pay what ever money it take to get the latest and greatest phone.
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i agree completely. people will always want the newest and best thing. whether it has 1 new feature or 50, if it has something the old model didnt, someone will be waiting to buy it.
so why would you put everything into the new model asll at once? from the consumer standpoint, that would be the way to go. But from the business view of it, the less you give at a time, the more you will get in the long run
so why would you put everything into the new model asll at once? from the consumer standpoint, that would be the way to go. But from the business view of it, the less you give at a time, the more you will get in the long run
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I said I was a bit disappointed about the camera on the new iPhone not being improved at all. Nothing else.
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pepsijunky said:
Hilarious that people are dissappointed with the new iphone even though it's 1/3 of the price from the first phone's release in 2007 and it actually added GPS and 3G, 2 incredible additions. You guys are ridiculous.
If you want a phone with everything, but a little less fun day to day, go on ebay, buy an N95-3 for about $450. Then you can never complain about features again.
Except for the lack of a qwerty keyboard.
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I think its hilarious that people think a 3g iphone is cool when att's 3g footprint is pathetic
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Last time I checked with myself, my area was golden with 3G, so I guess you are just irrelevant to me.
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That's awsome, it sounds like it does not apply to you- as long as you don't leave home. What I'm referring to is att's overall footprint. You can hate all you want but if you look at their map it is mighty small. Now if you happen to be in the 100 sqaure feet they have it awsome!
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Oh golly you're so funny. I knew what you were trying to say but you are stating something with zero evidence. No one cares. You are an idiot.
Salem, OR
Seattle, WA
Denver, CO
Spokane, WA
Portland, OR
Las Vegas, NV
Those are my areas of interest, why don't you look them up and let me know how the footprint is.
Salem, OR
Seattle, WA
Denver, CO
Spokane, WA
Portland, OR
Las Vegas, NV
Those are my areas of interest, why don't you look them up and let me know how the footprint is.
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Great, you have listed a few larger cities where if a carrier did not have reception they would be lauphed at. I'm sorry you took offense, but I am not talking to you and you alone and if those places get great 3g coverage awsome, in fact I think you named half of all att's 3g cities.
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No, I named all the cities I go to or will go to this summer. I think it covers it pretty well. I am not going to shed a tear if I don't get 3g coverage in ho dunk no where. Don't talk about footprints with no back up. We will crush you.
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What do you mean no back up? I want coverage everywhere you sound like someone who has never experienced that
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I mean facts, what are you comparing it to? You just come in and say some blanket horses a$$ statement and then go on and on with the same post.
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Fortunately for you you have a great phone without the Verizon UI lock down. I'm sure it's great, I'm over you so I'll end it. PS I see your troll post about the iphone, either you want the iphone or you're a dousch bag, either way, I win.
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reklisammy said:
That's awsome, it sounds like it does not apply to you- as long as you don't leave home. What I'm referring to is att's overall footprint. You can hate all you want but if you look at their map it is mighty small. Now if you happen to be in the 100 sqaure feet they have it awsome!
Thats correct and millions reside in that 100 square feet and for them ATT is indeed awesome....and guess what THEY HAD A CHOICE OF CARRIERS....Something many of Verizon users do not in those areas where the buffalo roam.
Overall footprint means nothing if you never Step there. GSM has a worldwide footprint. Big deal.
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Anxiovert said:
I was expecting the new one to have a higher resolution camera (3.2MP with a flash, or at least a night light for night pics)
IcyHot: If you're still hanging around these forums I want to ask you. Is the camera on the K850i a lot better than the one on my K790a? Because the camera on my K790a drive people NUTS!
YOu are getting a phone with MORE features for 1/3 the cost of the same phone with LESS features LESS than ONE YEAR AGO
Get real man.......
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