Gas and Phone Bills = Food for thought.
I was sitting here at my desk at work a few minutes ago when my mind started racing about Gas Prices and Inflation and other things that we have to economically adjust to in times of economic sluggishness.
And I wondered... what does the cell phone industry have to offer at this time?
I have a point I swear.
You see the high gas prices were bound appear in this country. They have been present in Europe for years and years, and since OPEC has all the highest producing oil countries as members, and managerially speaking, couldn't manage anything production wise if it came with a speak and spell manual, we will always have high oil prices.
The shortages that happened in the 70's (twice I might add) was due to the failures of relying...
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And I wondered... what does the cell phone industry have to offer at this time?
I have a point I swear.
You see the high gas prices were bound appear in this country. They have been present in Europe for years and years, and since OPEC has all the highest producing oil countries as members, and managerially speaking, couldn't manage anything production wise if it came with a speak and spell manual, we will always have high oil prices.
The shortages that happened in the 70's (twice I might add) was due to the failures of relying...
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I was sitting here at my desk at work a few minutes ago when my mind started racing about Gas Prices and Inflation and other things that we have to economically adjust to in times of economic sluggishness.
And I wondered... what does the cell phone industry have to offer at this time?
I have a point I swear.
You see the high gas prices were bound appear in this country. They have been present in Europe for years and years, and since OPEC has all the highest producing oil countries as members, and managerially speaking, couldn't manage anything production wise if it came with a speak and spell manual, we will always have high oil prices.
The shortages that happened in the 70's (twice I might
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You state that as fact. For YOU a cell phone might be a luxury, for others it is a necessity. You could also argue "fuel" as you put it is not a necessity (I am guessing you mean oil and petroleum products). You can walk to work or ride a bike.
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Well see that is where the debate begins. Because where I live here in South Texas near Houston, but not in Houston, around the Woodlands area, we do not have mass transit, so fuel is a necessity, I maybe able to bike to work which is 10 - 12 miles away, but the 60 miles round trip to school is something I would not be able to do. And Texas, come on, our state, with the few exceptions of Dallas/Ft Worth, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin and inside the city limits I might add, do not have mass transit. Look at Houston, you have 5 - 6 million living in the area with only 2 million living inside the city limits, so even if you wanted to use public transportation you have to drive there in the first place. Most areas of the United States are...
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Well see that is where the debate begins. Because where I live here in South Texas near Houston, but not in Houston, around the Woodlands area, we do not have mass transit, so fuel is a necessity, I maybe able to bike to work which is 10 - 12 miles away, but the 60 miles round trip to school is something I would not be able to do. And Texas, come on, our state, with the few exceptions of Dallas/Ft Worth, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin and inside the city limits I might add, do not have mass transit. Look at Houston, you have 5 - 6 million living in the area with only 2 million living inside the city limits, so even if you wanted to use public transportation you have to drive there in the first plac
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What I said was it is all relative. I am not so simple to deal in absolutes. Your necessity could be another's luxury.
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texaswireless said:
What I said was it is all relative. I am not so simple to deal in absolutes. Your necessity could be another's luxury.
Uh no............ anything that is my necessity is something needed for the continuance of LIFE and therefore no one's luuxry,
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Then why don't you just buy a horse? You don't NEED energy, you want it because it is more convenient than riding a horse to work.
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texaswireless said:
Then why don't you just buy a horse? You don't NEED energy, you want it because it is more convenient than riding a horse to work.
OK lets keep it simple for the simpleton....
Tomorrow at 8AM
Throw all cell phones away..
Stop using all energy
Now you shall learn the meaning of nescessity......and luxury.
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I know how to ride and care for a horse, do you?
I would be fine.
You are such a rock head you fail to see my point. Necessity is relative.
I would be fine.
You are such a rock head you fail to see my point. Necessity is relative.
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texaswireless said:
I know how to ride and care for a horse, do you?
I would be fine.
You are such a rock head you fail to see my point. Necessity is relative.
You have no point!!!!
You claim energy need and cell phone needs as being equal. The you speak of horses LOL
No necessity is absolute. Either you need it to live and thrive or you die
Cell phones are not necessary to the masses. People can live anywhere with minor inconvenience without them.
Energy is extremely necessary as without it can cripple a city, towns and only very few will be able to live normally without it, And they live in Pennsylvania.....Not Texas despite your apparent love for your horse
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AvgJoe said:
No necessity is absolute. Either you need it to live and thrive or you die.
If I did not have electricity and oil, etc. I certainly would not die. You might apparently, but many would do just fine.
AvgJoe said:
Energy is extremely necessary as without it can cripple a city, towns and only very few will be able to live normally without it
Keyword, normally. You are losing this philosophical argument.
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one of the quirks of being a human. we need to stop relying on these type of services. obviously we can survive without oil, cell phones, and even electricity belive it or not. example the amish community
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My point exactly.
Luxurys are relative. For most people in this world, electricity could be considered a luxury. For those of us in the United States it is a neccessity because we are used to a higher standard of living.
Every week I drive a stretch of I-10 that looks straight into the "shacks" that people in Cuidad Juarez consider their home. No running water, no electricity.
It is all relative.
Luxurys are relative. For most people in this world, electricity could be considered a luxury. For those of us in the United States it is a neccessity because we are used to a higher standard of living.
Every week I drive a stretch of I-10 that looks straight into the "shacks" that people in Cuidad Juarez consider their home. No running water, no electricity.
It is all relative.
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texaswireless said:AvgJoe said:
No necessity is absolute. Either you need it to live and thrive or you die.
If I did not have electricity and oil, etc. I certainly would not die. You might apparently, but many would do just fine.AvgJoe said:
Energy is extremely necessary as without it can cripple a city, towns and only very few will be able to live normally without it
Keyword, normally. You are losing this philosophical argument.
SO you are saying you can live just as normally without a cell phone as without energy? WOW You must live on a farm then.
My issue is with your implication that both are equally necessary...
DO yo...
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AvgJoe said:
My issue is with your implication that both are equally necessary...
I never said that, I said everything is relative.
And if you started taking away technology productivity would fall and the economy would falter (even more than now). Cell phones included.
If you would take the time to read instead of simply ranting you might realize what the conversation is about.
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texaswireless said:
You state that as fact. For YOU a cell phone might be a luxury, for others it is a necessity. You could also argue "fuel" as you put it is not a necessity (I am guessing you mean oil and petroleum products). You can walk to work or ride a bike.
A necessity is something one cannot survive without in my book.Energy IS a necessity. Cell phones are clearly not on the same level.
You are deep in the doo doo if you are placing a cell phone on the same level as energy....
You need to get out more.
Most of us lived quite well without cell phones for many many years before they became vogue. In fact many still live well without them and many more could survive quite well without them.
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The entire population of the planet earth lived without "energy" in many forms for many more years than we have lived with "energy". We survived quite well without it.
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Yes but that was before Governments, Environmental Regulations, and when you hit middle age around the time you turned 10 - 14 if you were lucky to survive birth.
And we survived well without it for the very reason why we are getting lambasted by special interest groups (there are special interests groups that are not corporations to all those reading this post)by killing animals and humans alike.
The reason we started the path we went on is because we realized doing number 2 in an outhouse isn't very sanitary compared to doing it in a toilet with functioning plumbing. Yes we had candle lit rooms at night and if you lived long enough to see 50, you were near blind towards the end of your life.
We have chosen the lifestyles that w...
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And we survived well without it for the very reason why we are getting lambasted by special interest groups (there are special interests groups that are not corporations to all those reading this post)by killing animals and humans alike.
The reason we started the path we went on is because we realized doing number 2 in an outhouse isn't very sanitary compared to doing it in a toilet with functioning plumbing. Yes we had candle lit rooms at night and if you lived long enough to see 50, you were near blind towards the end of your life.
We have chosen the lifestyles that w...
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texaswireless said:
The entire population of the planet earth lived without "energy" in many forms for many more years than we have lived with "energy". We survived quite well without it.
Again you are equating cell phones with energy......
IF man never invented fire I doubt he would have continued to exist.
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AvgJoe said:texaswireless said:
The entire population of the planet earth lived without "energy" in many forms for many more years than we have lived with "energy". We survived quite well without it.
Again you are equating cell phones with energy......
IF man never invented fire I doubt he would have continued to exist.
Yes I used the owrd invented becasue thats what he did when he began using it,
Cell phones are right up there with Television as far as Im concerned. You can live equally well with or without it.
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You can also buy a horse and ride him to work.
And BTW, man did not invent fire. No one says (no one intelligent anyways) that Benjamin Franklin INVENTED electricity.
And BTW, man did not invent fire. No one says (no one intelligent anyways) that Benjamin Franklin INVENTED electricity.
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texaswireless said:
You state that as fact. For YOU a cell phone might be a luxury, for others it is a necessity. You could also argue "fuel" as you put it is not a necessity (I am guessing you mean oil and petroleum products). You can walk to work or ride a bike.
Then again it might be for you because you feed your family based on cell phones. But in the real world.....
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but see that is where the debate is as Texaswireless stated that to some it is a necessity, but then it comes down to priorities.
but like i stated in the respones to Texas, I am just surprised the actions of businesses including the cell phone companies but excluding the auto companies though, as to the prices they are putting up.
If you want to attract new customers during this time, price reduction is the key until the perception things are going well start up again.
but like i stated in the respones to Texas, I am just surprised the actions of businesses including the cell phone companies but excluding the auto companies though, as to the prices they are putting up.
If you want to attract new customers during this time, price reduction is the key until the perception things are going well start up again.
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schlittertex said:
but see that is where the debate is as Texaswireless stated that to some it is a necessity, but then it comes down to priorities.
but like i stated in the respones to Texas, I am just surprised the actions of businesses including the cell phone companies but excluding the auto companies though, as to the prices they are putting up.
If you want to attract new customers during this time, price reduction is the key until the perception things are going well start up again.
Yeah but people don't really really need cell phones. They never really did. Business was conducted despite having to use a landline. Go figure. They are leashes and conveniences and luxurys. But in no way can the...
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I totally agree, that is why I wrote this lol.
I am just shocked how other industries have been sluggish to respond, minus the car companies I should say.
I am just shocked how other industries have been sluggish to respond, minus the car companies I should say.
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Hitting the nail on the head.
It is a fact, and every corporate employee who comes by my stand (dealer) says the same thing.
"It doesn't matter, I have job security because I am protected by a Union."
Thats fine and all, but once again...
When your bosses are pushing features, features, feeatures and people are cutting cost, and trying to save money, you will not be selling features anymore, which is happening now.
I give FAN discoounts all day, and feel like I should considering these huge corporate empires give two ****s about peoples struggles or phone bills.
Sure, some of these rotten spoiled families dont't have the sense to save or budget so yea, they'll get every feature I mention.
But not all........
About thi...
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It is a fact, and every corporate employee who comes by my stand (dealer) says the same thing.
"It doesn't matter, I have job security because I am protected by a Union."
Thats fine and all, but once again...
When your bosses are pushing features, features, feeatures and people are cutting cost, and trying to save money, you will not be selling features anymore, which is happening now.
I give FAN discoounts all day, and feel like I should considering these huge corporate empires give two ****s about peoples struggles or phone bills.
Sure, some of these rotten spoiled families dont't have the sense to save or budget so yea, they'll get every feature I mention.
But not all........
About thi...
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