I would be careful that you know the frequencies in your area. Those phones (P1 & G900) are tri band and may not work on the ATT network. Also you do know that the 3G for those is strictly EU format. The C902 would be okay as there is a quad band version for the US (C902a) but there is no UMTS/HSDPA. If you are really looking at the C902 I would suggest the K850 as it has all the same specs but has full compatibility with the US including the 3G and you can get it for about $100 cheaper than the C902. Just some food for thought.

well let me tell you i had a conversation with a at&t rep and she told me that i don't have to worry about 850 at this point, that 1900 is everywhere and as far as the umts, the phones' specs state umts on 2100 and the rep told me 2100 is what we have here but what are you talking about with this "EU" format? I've also inquired with some merchants on ebay selling the p1 and have confirmed that the phone can get 3g so some more info would help. do have any sources on your info? thanks

hey, also, regarding the c902 vs. the k850, on one mobiledia.com it shows the difference in bands for utms as 850/1900/2100 for the k850 while only 2100 for the c902. would that be what you're referring to as far as the compatibility with service in the states? excuse my newbility.

and actually, neither of these phones suits my needs as they don't have symbian. i'm assuming with os, if you can call it that, that you cannot download programs and such particularly for creating/editing documents correct? thanks again.....

Okay I will reply to this one so there is no confusion. Yes; the 850/1900/2100 on the K850 is what I was talking about. The 2100 band is used only in Europe and parts of Asia. The US (ATT) uses the 850/1900 bands for their 3G (UMTS)signal. The P1 will not function in the US under the UMTS frequencies (see gsmarena.com or pdadb.net) for specs on different devices. Actually GSMArena has a nice little tool that you can pick what you want in a phone and it will sort through its database and find one for you. Then you can look at the specific specs and see if it would be something that you'd like.

As for the OS, symbian is a really nice one as with Windows Mobile (I guess it would be up to you and to your liking - They both have softwar...
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thanks a lot. you have indeed cleared things up for me because every other source, be it a cell phone review or a CR or whatever HAS confused the issue with misinformation but what you have explained puts the pieces together. some source actually said that the difference is that europe uses umts/gprs while the us uses hsdpa and i've seen those terms used interchangeably and in cases where it would suggest the p1 for example would work with 3g here so... oh and that at&t CR told me we use 2100 band. i wonder if she was also wrong about not needing to worry about 850 as 1900 has been deployed everywhere.

and those java based os's, i'd have to play with them to see if they'd suit my needs. i don't really need a computer phone, i just ...
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cool stuff. looks like "hsdpa" is the 3.5g where "umts" is 3g. so if one's looking into the future they may want to stick with the hsdpa for the faster speeds no?

Yeah I would say that as you get (if deployed where you are) about double the speeds with HSDPA vs. UMTS. But if you see that a phone has HSDPA but not UMTS don't be discouraged. The major thing to look for when it comes to compatibility for the US are the frequencies. You will always need 850 and 1900 (2G) at a minimum and for the 850 and 1900 (3G). As I said before GSMARENA is a great place to look and get an idea of what is good.

Yeah the CR rep that told you the US used 2100 was really wrong. As for the other part she could be right. Some markets use just the 850 and some just the 1900 but there are also some that use both. To understand this more take a look at

http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml »

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