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Icyhot

Feb 26, 2005, 4:30 AM
If Cingular can include unlimited M2M on certain plans, as well as give unlimited nights and weekends, why can't they give unlimited text messaging at a certain price. Does it cost them (Cingular) more if a person text messages someone instead of calling?? Doesn't talking on your phone and sending a text message use the same path i.e. hitting the tower and going to the other persons phone? Thanks for anyones insight in advance.
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Mr.PIR

Feb 26, 2005, 6:13 AM
Icyhot said:
If Cingular can include unlimited M2M on certain plans, as well as give unlimited nights and weekends, why can't they give unlimited text messaging at a certain price. Does it cost them (Cingular) more if a person text messages someone instead of calling?? Doesn't talking on your phone and sending a text message use the same path i.e. hitting the tower and going to the other persons phone? Thanks for anyones insight in advance.

They sell airtime packages, thats what they do, the rest the make the money back from, so fron a financial standpoint, they would loser money, thats why most carriers charge for packages, and none are unlimited, we all know how much money they(ATTWS) ade from unlimited in...
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temp

Feb 26, 2005, 9:25 AM
the answer to your question is because cingular is the DEVIL and their bloody rule shall rain down upon you from the skies
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plumey79

Feb 26, 2005, 11:32 AM
DANG SON! you must hate cingular temp. what carrier do you use?
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Icyhot

Feb 26, 2005, 12:58 PM
He has Cingular and T-mo
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Icyhot

Feb 26, 2005, 12:55 PM
I had FREE unlimited text messages for the first 3 years Cingular was in existance..don't tell me they CAN'T do it..
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jinx7676

Feb 26, 2005, 12:59 PM
Icyhot said:
I had FREE unlimited text messages for the first 3 years Cingular was in existance..don't tell me they CAN'T do it..


that was due to an error. it was fixed during a system audit. it CAN be done. ANYTHING can be done if the codes for it are loaded into the billing system. it's not profitable to have unlimited text messaging. i agree that the $19.99 package should be unlimited, but that's why im not running the joint..lol
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Icyhot

Feb 26, 2005, 1:08 PM
No jinx, when Bellsouth Mobility became Cingular, that was one of the things they offered, free unlimited text messaging for 2 years to ALL customers who switched to Cingular then..I was just fortunate enough to have it for 3 years instead of 2..
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Mr.PIR

Feb 26, 2005, 1:11 PM
Icyhot said:
No jinx, when Bellsouth Mobility became Cingular, that was one of the things they offered, free unlimited text messaging for 2 years to ALL customers who switched to Cingular then..I was just fortunate enough to have it for 3 years instead of 2..

Yes, that was offer to switch over, as when you switched it came with a contract.the point is Technically can they? YES!, will they NO!, as that costs them money, so it is NOT GOING to happen.
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Icyhot

Feb 26, 2005, 1:13 PM
Why does it cost them money?? Does it not use the same path as a call?? We have unlimited calling, but why not unlimited text..
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Mr.PIR

Feb 26, 2005, 1:17 PM
Icyhot said:
Why does it cost them money?? Does it not use the same path as a call?? We have unlimited calling, but why not unlimited text..

no its uses different usage, think of it this way, you have two straws, the one on the left is for voice, and the other is data, text messaging uses both straws, where as voice uses one, and data uses the other,text requires both straws working together.

so double amount going through.and the bigger point, unlimited calls are to customers they own, where as texts are sent to multiple carriers, and both domestic and international!
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phoneshark

Feb 26, 2005, 7:35 PM
It's called capitalism.

It's the way we make money.

I sell my customers SMS, MMS, and MediaNet packages, then Cingular makes money and rewards me by paying me money.

Nice little system and is usually bitched about by the lazy and unsuccessful.

Hope this helps.
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Icyhot

Feb 27, 2005, 12:03 AM
Not a bit..
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jramossteel

Feb 26, 2005, 8:37 PM
Mr.PIR said:
Icyhot said:
No jinx, when Bellsouth Mobility became Cingular, that was one of the things they offered, free unlimited text messaging for 2 years to ALL customers who switched to Cingular then..I was just fortunate enough to have it for 3 years instead of 2..

Yes, that was offer to switch over, as when you switched it came with a contract.the point is Technically can they? YES!, will they NO!, as that costs them money, so it is NOT GOING to happen.

No that promotion was just that a promotion with the plan.. If I remember correctly, the option were the $29.99 you could chose one of the 3 promos (mobile to mobile, nights and weekends, or unlimited text messaging)...
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Icyhot

Feb 26, 2005, 1:11 PM
But I don't see how they can offer unlimited calling but can't offer unlimited text..is it more expensive for Cingular?? I don't see how it could be..
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Mr.PIR

Feb 26, 2005, 1:13 PM
Icyhot said:
But I don't see how they can offer unlimited calling but can't offer unlimited text..is it more expensive for Cingular?? I don't see how it could be..

They offer unlimited calling, because its based on volume, 49.6 million customers. there is more benefit from them, its cheaper for a company to have minutes on aservice then it is for text capabilities!
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jramossteel

Feb 26, 2005, 8:33 PM
They just don't offer it anymore, hon. It was a promotion that we offered when text messaging was first being offered, like four and a half years ago when I started with the company... Previous to that the phones didn't have the mobile to mobile messaging built in to them... And we offer as a promotion for like the first month now when you sign up for a text package, but from a business stand point, I don't think they will again because of the amount of money that it brings in.
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guitarman21

Feb 27, 2005, 1:24 PM
Actually, T-Mo had unlimited text messaging for $9.99 for a while. Also, AT&T didn't go "out of business."
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jramossteel

Feb 27, 2005, 1:29 PM
No but it was so far in debt that there really was no way of getting out though. ☹️
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Mr.PIR

Feb 27, 2005, 2:45 PM
guitarman21 said:
Actually, T-Mo had unlimited text messaging for $9.99 for a while. Also, AT&T didn't go "out of business."



Well let's see, ATTWS was bought out by cingular wireless.The production of all ATTWS phones were discontinued, all plans were discontinued.All attws customers are now "legacy" customers.The name ATTWS goes back to the Parent Company ATT, which is being bought out by one the 2 parent parent companies of Cingular- SBC.

Anybody who wants to do anything such as change their coverage plan, get new phones, has to "migrate" over to cingular "orange"

pretty much like i said in other posts its like a war, "we" simply cutthe customers supply lines on the blue side "new phones, SIM CAR...
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Mr.PIR

Feb 27, 2005, 2:49 PM
BTW the term they used "merger" they legally used instead of what they actually did "buyout"

merg·er ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mûrjr)


Law. The absorption of a lesser estate, liability, right, action, or offense into a greater one.
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maverick96

Feb 27, 2005, 4:27 PM
wow I'm glad this person knows how to spell and communicate properly
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Mr.PIR

Feb 27, 2005, 4:29 PM
maverick96 said:
wow I'm glad this person knows how to spell and communicate properly


Yeah buddy, you're my hero -NOT!!!

Why don't you go back to the VZW forum and bother them, thats you're good at, from reading all those flaming posts you spew!
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maverick96

Feb 27, 2005, 8:06 PM
Thats I'm good at. Try "that you're good at" another idiot who cannot communicate properly!!
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busterhyman

Feb 27, 2005, 8:15 PM
Actually, it's "that's what you're good at". If your going to bother correcting someone, at least get it right yourself.
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muchdrama

Feb 27, 2005, 8:24 PM
busterhyman said:
Actually, it's "that's what you're good at". If your going to bother correcting someone, at least get it right yourself.
You're arguing rational thought with him?
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KnifeySpooney

Feb 27, 2005, 8:27 PM
Considering Buster is sitting right next to me, we find this oddly entertaining (in a morbid, slightly masochistic way). However, we both got a chuckle at reading your response.

Is it unfair for Buster and I to "tag-team" these posts? 😉
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busterhyman

Feb 27, 2005, 8:28 PM
KnifeySpooney said:


Is it unfair for Buster and I to "tag-team" these posts? 😉



Whoa whoa whoa, I'm not looking to "tag team" anything with you, YOU SICK FREAK 😳
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KnifeySpooney

Feb 27, 2005, 8:30 PM
Fair enough. I guess I could have chosen a different phrasing.

However, you calling me a sick freak- well, that's just the pot calling the kettle black!
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busterhyman

Feb 27, 2005, 8:31 PM
touche 😲
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KnifeySpooney

Feb 27, 2005, 8:24 PM
Actually, I'd say they did communicate rather clearly. I just reread the post, and found only two minor errors in grammar or puncuation. I wouldn't say it was as big a deal as you tried to make it.

That said, I can't imagine that anybody finds your rampant self-righteousness appealing, nor your rudeness amusing. I've been reading these forums on a daily basis, and have seen very little value from your posts. Have you ever considered waiting to post until you have something worth saying?
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Icyhot

Feb 28, 2005, 8:44 AM
The point is, he has NOTHING worth saying..
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bk77

Feb 26, 2005, 3:53 PM
Icyhot-

USCC is a much smaller company, and they offer unlimited sms for $24.95 starting march 1st. If they are in your area, you should check them out. They also offer unlimited incoming, and on some plans unlimted m-2-m. Just a suggestion since you are looking for un sms(text.)
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Icyhot

Feb 26, 2005, 11:58 PM
Thanks, wasn't looking..no way I will leave Cingular, but was just curious..
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techgirl

Feb 27, 2005, 9:47 PM
Well they are right, messaging is on a different platform from voice calls. But Cingular is offering unlimited text messaging for 30 days if you get a text plan and unlimited MMS for a whole year if you purchase a MMS plan for 4.99.

Like any company that is in business to make a profit, you have to make good decisions about what you give the consumers, companies like Cingular and Verizon get labeled as expensive but they think in higher numbers. No one can afford to really give millions of customers unlimited everything (especially when most are only paying 40.00 a month) That's why a lot of phone companies are getting bought out now.

I'm sure you wouldn't work unlimited hours for the same pay every week.
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Icyhot

Feb 28, 2005, 8:52 AM
I was just unaware that they used different platforms. Text messaging is the ONLY thing they don't offer unlimited for (aside from the one month thing) and sometimes I feel like I work unlimited hours LOL
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nokiaguy

Feb 28, 2005, 11:18 PM
makes no sense not to. we did have that 1 device for txt msg only with unlimited for like $20 a month. to me its the same thing. maybe our numbers show enough people don't leave b/c of txt issues or they think we don't need to remain competitive. think about how many calls u make a month and how much u pay. now think of how many txt you would do versus calls if u had unlimited. to me cingular has the potential to lose revenue and this is why they won't do it.
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Icyhot

Feb 28, 2005, 11:22 PM
I hear ya there..I am not the text messaging fiend I used to be, but was just wondering..
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