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Check this out: AT&T playing gatekeeper to wireless web?

ccareatatt

Jun 20, 2009, 8:07 PM
SO AT&T has a partnership with MLB? Slingplayer step your game up and do the same. I think people just love to whine.
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DaCoach

Jun 20, 2009, 9:59 PM
"We are troubled that carriers like AT&T are playing gatekeeper to the next generation of wireless Internet applications," Scott said in a statement. "No Internet service provider should be allowed to pick winners and losers online."

Ummmm...AT&T owns their network. They can let whatever they want over the network. If you don't like the policies of one carrier, switch.
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Jayshmay

Jun 20, 2009, 10:06 PM
It's called censorship, and if you aren't honest enough to admit that then maybe you belong in China, Iran, or N. Korea.
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DaCoach

Jun 20, 2009, 10:09 PM
It's not censorship. I'm sure that there is quite alot of money involved...it's called capitolism.

Perhaps you should move to Cuba...communist.
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Jayshmay

Jun 20, 2009, 10:12 PM
You are the one who is the communist, your supporting comtrol of media. Try being honest, it's a good value to have.
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DaCoach

Jun 20, 2009, 10:22 PM
Ummmm...obviously, you have no idea of what communism truly is.

AT&T is a company. It's there to make money. It can do with it's network whatever it wants. It is not a government entity, so it is censoring nothing. Slingbox did not want to pay enough money for it to be profitable for AT&T to allow them to use the network. MLB reaches many more AT&T customers, and more importantly, more AT&T customers enjoy MLB than Slingbox. It's a good business concession for AT&T because it keeps more customers happy.

If you do dont like the idea of Capitolism, that is fine. I hate to tell you, your opinions really do not matter to any of the cell companies. They will do what they will to be profitable. You don't have to agree with it. That is why i...
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Jayshmay

Jun 20, 2009, 10:28 PM
It's called net neutrality. And hopefully this will end up in court and ATT will learn how inconsistent they're TOS is just as stated in the article.

I think you are blinded by being an ATT fanboy.
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DaCoach

Jun 20, 2009, 10:44 PM
Nope, just a realist. Like I said, Jay, if people aren't happy, they can go to another company. They all have there plusses and minuses.

The reality is, most iPhone users don't really have the tech savy to even know about slingbox, much less use it. Therefore, AT&T is not going to sacrifice bandwidth for a few customers.

It's just liek your previous comments about AT&T keeping high end camera phones from being subsidized. If it's not profitable, they are not going to do it.

And, while I am many things, and ATT fanboy is not amoung them. That is an accusation used by someone who has lost the argument. Have a good night.
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Jayshmay

Jun 20, 2009, 11:13 PM
Can you explain something to me reguarding high-end cameraphones?
You claim there isn't a market. How can you know whether there is a market for something if it has never been offered? Rogers in Canada offers the Nokia N95, T-Mobile USA offers high-end camera-phones, the Samsung Behold 5mp, and one other Samsung 8mp cameraphone.

So how can the potential of a market be known if a perticular product isn't offered. The carrier could even carry a handset in limited #'s if they wanted to in order to test the market for it.

Besides, it isn't REALLY about market anyway, I heard ATT was testing the Nokia N95, but didn't end up offering it, because Nokia refused to minus the GPS. ATT wanted they're corny software on it. Personally, I have Goog...
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dromant

Jun 22, 2009, 12:42 AM
The device is offered. Its offered by several sources, Best Buy, online websites, etc. If people want to buy them, there are plenty of avenues to do so, yet they still are not very common - why? A majority of cell phone users really don't care about the high end camera phone - they care more about style and what their favorite celebrity is using - usually, it is the higher end, tech savvy customers that care about high end devices, and unfortunately they are outnumbered grossly by the Moto RAZR loving zombies. Until that changes, you won't see anything change.
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Jayshmay

Jun 22, 2009, 1:06 AM
I understand what your saying about fashion phones, I got a girl I like an LG Shine. But again, your making a comment about a market that ATT has not tested. But T-Mobile USA is in the high end cameraphone market, they offer both a 5mp and 8mp Samsung phone, and Verizon offers the Casio Exilim 5mp phone. So again, being absent from a market is no way to know the potential.
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Jayshmay

Jun 20, 2009, 10:46 PM
You should read the 2nd to last paragraph in the article where it says that this isn't the 1st time ATT has shown preferential treatment.

Also about 4 to 5 paragraphs before the end give a good example as to the inconsistency of ATT's argument reguarding the incident in Austin Tx.

Looks to me like maybe ATT needs either better network engineers, a whole heck of a lot of cells on wheels (COWs) and or more spectrum.

There is some analysis for you from an honest unbiasted person, who likes ATT more than other carriers but is not blinded by a fanboy attitude.
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Menno

Jun 23, 2009, 1:57 PM
(can't see story because of firewall)

But I'm going to assume this is about ATT not allowing the slingbox to work for the iphone over their network (and only over wifi) correct?

I agree that it's not cool that it's being blocked, but at the same time with all the connectivity issues they are having with iphone data to begin with.. I can sorta see where they are coming from. Streaming media is data intensive and I could see it causing a lot of damage to their network stability if you had a lot of users all streaming from one tower.

While it sucks for the users who wanted the ability, if they allowed it they are potentially ruining the network experience for users on normal phones who see their call quality/browsing speed diminish so...
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