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👀 After realizing "The Fave 5" idea wasn't nonsense. At&t got on the bus! At&t looked at the idea as money down the drain! "If they're talking that much, we're charging that much!" is the way of thinking among investors. After several months of customer's rejecting their expensive service, and cheap incentives, At&t caved! Take "Rollover Minutes", yes you get to keep your unused minutes, but you're constantly losing and gaining minutes! At&t has studied long and hard on how to appear to have given customers something, without changing a thing! See how long it took for At&t to realize that keeping your unused minutes is only fair, not a gift from them! You sold me a plan for this many minutes for this price.. The fact I've ...
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Pretty dam sure verizon has a minimum rate plan you have to be on for this as well.
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Yes they do. We have a 1400 min family plan with the friends and family circle feature. we wanted to drop down to the 700 min plan because we only use 300 mins a month between 4 lines. We were told if we lower it we lose the circle feature but then we would end up into overages based on the amount of mins we use calling people listed in our circle. Kinda sucks, but we live with it.
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Actually, as with most "bundle plans" (for minutes, meals, whatever) if you use your allotted minutes fully (as in, all 450) and take full advantages of the perks (unlimited Mobile to mobile/nights and weekends) companies typically LOSE money.
These plans are built around the assumption that most customers will not use anywhere close to the limit.
These plans are built around the assumption that most customers will not use anywhere close to the limit.
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"...companies typically LOSE money."
That's one of the most bone-headed things I've ever heard. Companies pay very little for actual use of their network. Most costs are customer acquisition related and network upgrades. Once the upgrades are paid for, you go back to it costing very little.
Look at Metro PCS as a prime example. They virtually give away service and are still cash flow positive. They run a low overhead operation with no handset subsidies. That's how it works and that's how they continue to expand. If they combined with Cricket they would have licenses to be a true nationwide provider.
That's one of the most bone-headed things I've ever heard. Companies pay very little for actual use of their network. Most costs are customer acquisition related and network upgrades. Once the upgrades are paid for, you go back to it costing very little.
Look at Metro PCS as a prime example. They virtually give away service and are still cash flow positive. They run a low overhead operation with no handset subsidies. That's how it works and that's how they continue to expand. If they combined with Cricket they would have licenses to be a true nationwide provider.
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MetroPCS is also a small carrier that only really upgrades/expands their network when they have huge cash reserves (if they even do it then)
Wheras Verizon (and I am assuming other carriers, but I can't speak for them) invest billions annually to expanding and upgrading their network. In verizon's case it is an average of 1 billion ever other month, or 6 billion annually. On top of that you have R&D into new technologies (4g, the new cross platform app store, etc) investing in new phones (carrier exclusives), and typical network maintenance (COWS, etc) in addition to the millions, if not BILLIONS spent annually on advertising and promotions.
Metro PCS has what? a couple of billboards to pay for?
Upkeep on towers is expensive. If ...
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Wheras Verizon (and I am assuming other carriers, but I can't speak for them) invest billions annually to expanding and upgrading their network. In verizon's case it is an average of 1 billion ever other month, or 6 billion annually. On top of that you have R&D into new technologies (4g, the new cross platform app store, etc) investing in new phones (carrier exclusives), and typical network maintenance (COWS, etc) in addition to the millions, if not BILLIONS spent annually on advertising and promotions.
Metro PCS has what? a couple of billboards to pay for?
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You fail to mention economies of scale. It actually should be less expensive on a per user basis for the nationals. Just as Wal-Mart pays substantially less for inventory than a 5&10.
Network usage now and forever will be a very small line item on a quarterly statement for ALL wireless carriers. I urge you to look at Q2 reports for each wireless provider for a general idea. Especially look at that CPU. That's cost per user. Every dollar above that on a monthly service plan is a potential dollar profit per user regardless of actual usage of the network.
Metro's cost per user is $16.82. T-Mobile who's investing a ton of money into their network right now is $23. I imagine the other guys are in line with that $23 number. To think...
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Network usage now and forever will be a very small line item on a quarterly statement for ALL wireless carriers. I urge you to look at Q2 reports for each wireless provider for a general idea. Especially look at that CPU. That's cost per user. Every dollar above that on a monthly service plan is a potential dollar profit per user regardless of actual usage of the network.
Metro's cost per user is $16.82. T-Mobile who's investing a ton of money into their network right now is $23. I imagine the other guys are in line with that $23 number. To think...
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Someone with a 69.99 plan (lets say a family plan) with 2 additional phones, this comes to 89.99 or so.
So 23*4=92 That means on a 4 line plan, with the CPU you posted, it costs the company $2 more to offer service than they take in in monthly subscriptions. so yes, if those 4 people use everything, or even if they just use the average cost, they cost the company money.
Individual users might be profitable, family plans.. not as much so. The profit any company makes by offering voice time is dropping drastically every year, Where the companies still make a profit is data revenue
Yes, the companies make a profit, but they do so because most customers use nowhere near the minutes alloted to them (or data). If every customer ...
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So 23*4=92 That means on a 4 line plan, with the CPU you posted, it costs the company $2 more to offer service than they take in in monthly subscriptions. so yes, if those 4 people use everything, or even if they just use the average cost, they cost the company money.
Individual users might be profitable, family plans.. not as much so. The profit any company makes by offering voice time is dropping drastically every year, Where the companies still make a profit is data revenue
Yes, the companies make a profit, but they do so because most customers use nowhere near the minutes alloted to them (or data). If every customer ...
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I don't see Metro trying to throw anyone off, but we're talking nationals here. T-mo is still throwing 1,000 minutes at you for $39.99. You said it yourself, voice isn't where profits are to be made any more.
As far as family plans go I'll agree with you there. The old plans are not as profitable. In the same breath, people on those old plans only use voice as data never came as part of the package. We're kind of going in circles when really our thinking isn't far off.
As far as family plans go I'll agree with you there. The old plans are not as profitable. In the same breath, people on those old plans only use voice as data never came as part of the package. We're kind of going in circles when really our thinking isn't far off.
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No bet, it is a sure thing. The 10 people that you will have unlimited calling to is split up among the people in your family group. In other words, the group has 10 "FAVES" that they can call total. Also, you have to be on at least the $89.99 1400 minute family plan to qualify for this feature.
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CHANELPHONE said:
The popularity of the "Fave 5" idea and the fact customers feel that feature is a civil right
Is that the 28th Amendment to the constitution - "Hereby and hencefoth every man, woman and child, shall have the right to his or her Fave 5 on the wireless device of their choice"
God bless the United States 🤣
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CHANELPHONE said:The point is, At&t only has respect for the bank!
This is the stupidest comment ever.
There is not one business out there that is not in business for the "bank."
If they aren't in it for money then its a NPO.
ATT =! NPO
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They don't call me the Brooklyn Brawler for nothing! The only races i like take place in Nascar!
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