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Cingular+Rebates= Why Waste My TIme

mmcnier

Mar 24, 2005, 12:16 PM
When ATTWS was around, they had INSTANT REBATES ... Just like Sprint, T-Mobile & Verizon.

Cingular offers "Mail-In Rebate Debit Cards" I RARELY see "Instant Rebates" for Cingular.

What is the point in this? Why do they not offer instant savings like most carriers?

I would appreciate some USEFUL insight into this...
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LemuelLeblanc

Mar 24, 2005, 12:21 PM
They dont offer it because they do not want to
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mmcnier

Mar 24, 2005, 12:21 PM
But what is the point in doing it this way? 😕
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matty_r

Mar 24, 2005, 12:25 PM
The point is to make sure that before people get their rebates they are going to actually keep their service.
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Aleq

Mar 24, 2005, 1:01 PM
And because a sizable portion of people are too lazy, dumb, or unmotivated to actually send in mail in rebate forms, and every one that isn't sent in is money in the company's pocket.
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Aleq

Mar 24, 2005, 1:02 PM
Oh, and the company already has the money, so they get 8-12 weeks of interest on it as well.
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muchdrama

Mar 24, 2005, 2:33 PM
Aleq said:
Oh, and the company already has the money, so they get 8-12 weeks of interest on it as well.
Dammit! I posted my big explanation for nothing! Curses!
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muchdrama

Mar 24, 2005, 2:32 PM
Aleq said:
And because a sizable portion of people are too lazy, dumb, or unmotivated to actually send in mail in rebate forms, and every one that isn't sent in is money in the company's pocket.
Even if you do send it in it's money in the company's pocket. They deposit the cash earmarked for rebates into a account that accrues interest. Multiply this times a kertrillion (it's a word...look it up) and coporate CEO's are eating flapjacks out by the pool and bedding hookers on our collective dime.
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Aleq

Mar 24, 2005, 3:05 PM
muchdrama said:
Aleq said:
And because a sizable portion of people are too lazy, dumb, or unmotivated to actually send in mail in rebate forms, and every one that isn't sent in is money in the company's pocket.
Even if you do send it in it's money in the company's pocket. They deposit the cash earmarked for rebates into a account that accrues interest. Multiply this times a kertrillion (it's a word...look it up) and coporate CEO's are eating flapjacks out by the pool and bedding hookers on our collective dime.


Pardon me, but CEO's don't eat flapjacks and bed hookers, they eat crepes and associate with escorts. Get it right, puh-LEASE! 🙄
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muchdrama

Mar 24, 2005, 9:04 PM
Aleq said:
muchdrama said:
Aleq said:
And because a sizable portion of people are too lazy, dumb, or unmotivated to actually send in mail in rebate forms, and every one that isn't sent in is money in the company's pocket.
Even if you do send it in it's money in the company's pocket. They deposit the cash earmarked for rebates into a account that accrues interest. Multiply this times a kertrillion (it's a word...look it up) and coporate CEO's are eating flapjacks out by the pool and bedding hookers on our collective dime.


Pardon me, but CEO's don't eat flapjacks and bed hookers, they eat crepes and associate with escorts. Get it right, puh-LEASE! 🙄<
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KnifeySpooney

Mar 25, 2005, 1:47 PM
muchdrama said:
Multiply this times a kertrillion (it's a word...look it up....


I'm a bit rusty on my absurdly-large-number math.

Kertrillion = zillion x bajillion, right?
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lordrevan05

Mar 24, 2005, 7:54 PM
😁 That's true as well 😛
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lordrevan05

Mar 24, 2005, 7:53 PM
😕 Or if they think they're going to get a rebate, they'll keep their service. I handle about 50 calls a week where the rebate dept has lost, wouldn't accept, or otherwise screwed the customer with rebates.
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Mobile-El

Mar 24, 2005, 12:24 PM
ATTWS had been using mail in rebates for the last few years. Mail in rebates are preferred by the Carrier for mainly the $ reason. They have a fairly low redemtion rate. If you don't send it in you dont get the $.
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matty_r

Mar 24, 2005, 12:28 PM
this is very true also.
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dca

Mar 24, 2005, 12:24 PM
I would think that that was an ATT gimmick. The higher-ups would assess that it's time to lower the price of a particular model (because it's old or it sucks) from this to that. Marketing would agree, then disagree and roll out the new price or price difference as an "instant rebate".


Mail in rebates or time-deferred mail in rebates take advantage of the possible inability of the consumer to either:

A. Not send in the proper stuff the rebate processing center requires. ie-receipts, UPCs, etc

B. Not send in the info in the time alloted.

Bottom line: Marketing.
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mmcnier

Mar 24, 2005, 12:35 PM
I got a really crappy reply from LemuelLeblanc. The replys from Mobile-El, Matty_R & DCA were MUCH more helpful & insightful Thanks guys! 😁
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speedywalk

Mar 24, 2005, 12:43 PM
Here's the real reson behind it: economics.

What happens when you make a sale? The money that is received goes into the compay's account. It doens't pay for the goods, they've already been purchased...that's just an accounting scheme to make the books follow the law.

When you send in the rebate, they always say "please allow 6-8 for delivery" on them. Why? So the company can have time to process it...since they are all processed by hand.

At least that's on the surface. What really is going on is this: it isn't logical for the company to pass out the rebate in 1 week (and it IS possible). They would much rather sit on that money for the interest. Now, granted, the interest for 1 month isn't much on a $20, $50, or even $100 rebate. ...
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SBacklin

Mar 24, 2005, 1:52 PM
I'm glad someone sees the useless idea of the Mail-In Rebate crap. Those people in Young America are idiots. They lost two out of three of my rebates and I had to fight tooth and nail to get my money. It's all a bunch of BS.
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mmcnier

Mar 24, 2005, 2:20 PM
Yeah, i have had that probelm also... Which is why I asked the question.
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jramossteel

Mar 24, 2005, 2:28 PM
If you bought from a COR store you can go back to that store and there is a form that they can fill out to find out why you are having issues and get them resolved. (Or at least that is the way that it happens in my market)
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aml05

Mar 24, 2005, 2:58 PM
I am not familiar with the Cingular rebates but are they normally tied to the purchase of a specific phone or tied to the service contract? If it's tied to a particular phone then it very well could be the phone manufacturer that is reimbursing Cingular and they are the ones behind the rebate (maybe not though...).
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Iselltheshitoutofphones

Mar 24, 2005, 3:24 PM
Cingular does via Best Buy. Plus you get a better price on the phone than cingular.com or Cingular's telsales department.

Will
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austin316

Mar 24, 2005, 3:35 PM
Iselltheshitoutofphones said:
Cingular does via Best Buy. Plus you get a better price on the phone than cingular.com or Cingular's telsales department.

Will


Were you also aware that those prices are based on activation of service, if not they charge in addition to the price a $150.00 surcharge.They sell those phones, based on commision, so if they make none, they make it off the $150.00 surcharge.
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Darth_Ix

Mar 25, 2005, 2:08 PM
Actually Cingular offers an instant discount ($50 FOR A 1 YEAR AND $100 FOR A TWO YEAR). The mail-in Rebates are offered through the manufaturer and processed by a Cingular rebate center. The process is th3e same across the board.
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