Proof Positive Verizon Is The One Wrong in This Lawsuit
To all those VZW fanboys who argue this lawsuit is just sour grapes on AT&T's part, answer this: why didn't AT&T sue Sprint a year ago when Sprint had the largest 3G coverage and was posting attack ads against AT&T? Simple: the Sprint ads never claimed AT&T customers couldn't use their data or voice services outside 3G areas. Sprint only compared size and services.
When AT&T introduced their PTT service, Sprint never sued them over it, even though AT&T claimed greater PTT coverage, more features and cheaper pricing. Again, the attack ads were factually based, unlike Verizon that claimed Sprint's older PTT service was useless now and didn't work. Sound familiar?
Big Red has a long history of false advertising.
When AT&T introduced their PTT service, Sprint never sued them over it, even though AT&T claimed greater PTT coverage, more features and cheaper pricing. Again, the attack ads were factually based, unlike Verizon that claimed Sprint's older PTT service was useless now and didn't work. Sound familiar?
Big Red has a long history of false advertising.
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So why did AT&T admit the ads were factually correct in the court filings?
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texaswireless said:
So why did AT&T admit the ads were factually correct in the court filings?
AT&T agrees the ads are correct in their depiction of 3G coverage, not with their false claims that a customer is "out of touch" without it. That is the basis of the lawsuit.
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To bad Verizon changed it a while back to say "Voice and Data service is available outside the 3G network". AT&T has nothing anymore on this and it will be thrown out.
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VZW611LA said:
To bad Verizon changed it a while back to say "Voice and Data service is available outside the 3G network". AT&T has nothing anymore on this and it will be thrown out.
So, let me get this straight: since Verizon is no longer showing this commercial, the damage they have done is somehow null and void?
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AT&T is reeping what they sowed with their lack of investment and vision for a data intensive future.
Their lawsuit was filed as a PR response. They are attempting to do damage control buy saying they are suing. There are no "damages" other than a bruised ego because someone came up with a ad campaign that hit them where they had a soft spot.
Their lawsuit was filed as a PR response. They are attempting to do damage control buy saying they are suing. There are no "damages" other than a bruised ego because someone came up with a ad campaign that hit them where they had a soft spot.
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texaswireless said:
AT&T is reeping what they sowed with their lack of investment and vision for a data intensive future.
Their lawsuit was filed as a PR response. They are attempting to do damage control buy saying they are suing. There are no "damages" other than a bruised ego because someone came up with a ad campaign that hit them where they had a soft spot.
Sorry, but I don't follow your logic at all. Verizon has the right to produce false claims against AT&T in an ad because AT&T failed to build out their 3G network? 😕
AT&T is filing a lawsuit now when Sprint was hammering away much harder on them a year ago on the 3G coverage issue? 🤨
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You dont't follow my logic because you are blinded by your love of AT&T. I have no such love either way. I do have significant experience with both and was with AT&T during the "we dont't need a strong 3G network" arguments were flying around years ago.
Verizon is not lying. Verizon is pointing out a vary glaring weakness with AT&T. AT&T wants to find a "perceived" flaw but saying customers "interpret" the true ad in a way that harms AT&T. The probably is that it does not harm AT&T in a way that has cause to get a judgement.
If the truth hurts perhaps improvements should be made instead of trying to litigate good marketing.
Verizon is not lying. Verizon is pointing out a vary glaring weakness with AT&T. AT&T wants to find a "perceived" flaw but saying customers "interpret" the true ad in a way that harms AT&T. The probably is that it does not harm AT&T in a way that has cause to get a judgement.
If the truth hurts perhaps improvements should be made instead of trying to litigate good marketing.
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ok. Where in the world do you get your statements from? The first time I saw that ad was the first day it came out and it was hillarious! And in the fine print it was defending AT&T saying that it is only the 3G coverage map. So how is it Verizon's fault that people are taking it a different way it was intended? AT&T loses customers to Verizon daily. Even before they ever made these ads.
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This lawsuit was the right move for AT&T as they have no intention of building out their 3G. However, it is unlikely to work. It was worth a shot!
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they never had anything to begin with in this ridiculous thing they are trying to call a lawsuit
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Dude, have you used EDGE service lately with an advanced device like a Bold? My Bold sucked in EDGE and rarely would stay on 3G coverage.
I'd be willing to bet my 5 stores that if you took a poll of AT&T 3G customers THEY WOULD feel out of touch when they are forced to use EDGE service.
Verizon Wireless very accurately pointed out that AT&T lacks significant 3G coverage for their data intensive devices. Nothing inaccurate about that.
I'd be willing to bet my 5 stores that if you took a poll of AT&T 3G customers THEY WOULD feel out of touch when they are forced to use EDGE service.
Verizon Wireless very accurately pointed out that AT&T lacks significant 3G coverage for their data intensive devices. Nothing inaccurate about that.
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texaswireless said:
Dude, have you used EDGE service lately with an advanced device like a Bold? My Bold sucked in EDGE and rarely would stay on 3G coverage.
I'd be willing to bet my 5 stores that if you took a poll of AT&T 3G customers THEY WOULD feel out of touch when they are forced to use EDGE service.
Verizon Wireless very accurately pointed out that AT&T lacks significant 3G coverage for their data intensive devices. Nothing inaccurate about that.
Using your logic, AT&T could just as easily claim a Verizon customer is "out of touch" since he or she will miss out on important phone calls while surfing the web.
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Thank you Perry Mason.
AT&T did not sue sprint because SPRINT WAS HEMORRAGING CUSTOMERS and of no threat to AT&T. Since Verizon Wireless started this campaign the port ratio of customers leaving Verizon to AT&T and vice versa has swung back to even. AT&T sees the same data and needed to launch something to counter that effect.
They had two choices -
Launch an advertising campaign to show advantages of AT&T or Verizon Wireless that were a fresh and new message. While I agree rollover is a good offer (and not a gimmick regardless of what VZW likes to say) they cannot beat that dead horse any longer. They have nothing fresh to offer.
They can sue to create a positive PR spin. Most people see lawsuit and assume there is a SOME ...
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AT&T did not sue sprint because SPRINT WAS HEMORRAGING CUSTOMERS and of no threat to AT&T. Since Verizon Wireless started this campaign the port ratio of customers leaving Verizon to AT&T and vice versa has swung back to even. AT&T sees the same data and needed to launch something to counter that effect.
They had two choices -
Launch an advertising campaign to show advantages of AT&T or Verizon Wireless that were a fresh and new message. While I agree rollover is a good offer (and not a gimmick regardless of what VZW likes to say) they cannot beat that dead horse any longer. They have nothing fresh to offer.
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They had a number of choices. File a lawsuit and hope that Verizon would be intimidated and withdraw, Build out their 3G network or Run their own ads responding to Verizon's commercials. They are not going to spend the money on the network and a commercial stating that their 3G coverage IS less than Verizon's (but your phone will work just fine on 2.5G) just isn't going to be strong. So here they are. I don't blame them for trying something.
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A Verizon Wireless customer would not miss a call. If they were using data and a call came in the data session would pause while they took the call.
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You really though AT&T would win this lawsuit? They will lose again next month as Verizon continues their campaign mocking Baby Blue's network.
As for this comment...
"History speaks for itself. Verizon is the king of false advertising and AT&T didn't choose to sue Sprint a year ago over the same issue."
More Bars in More Places, Best Coverage, Fastest 3G network, etc - and I had a good laugh at that! 🤣
As for this comment...
"History speaks for itself. Verizon is the king of false advertising and AT&T didn't choose to sue Sprint a year ago over the same issue."
More Bars in More Places, Best Coverage, Fastest 3G network, etc - and I had a good laugh at that! 🤣
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vzwtechguy said:
...Fastest 3G network, etc - and I had a good laugh at that!...
Almost as funny as Verizon's claim to have the fastest PTT network. Can you hear me...yet? 🤣
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So where are you now Mr. Priest?
Lawyer?
Just a plain old customer with opinions?
Looks like a judge said they don't have a good chance of recovering damages and AT&T is (trying) to run attack ads.
Yeah.
Lawyer?
Just a plain old customer with opinions?
Looks like a judge said they don't have a good chance of recovering damages and AT&T is (trying) to run attack ads.
Yeah.
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you are over here attacking the Verizon so called "fan boys" yet you are acting like if you are so in love with AT&T? how does that work. The ONLY reason why AT&T is being a frickin cry baby is because Verizon IS actually competition. THEY ARE #1! DUH! Sprint isn't a big threat to AT&T so they didn't care. Now that Verizon is taking more of AT&T customers with their new ads they are getting scared and try to comeback with some crappy commerical. They are sore losers. "Case Closed." 🙄
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I work for sprint and yes they do suck. Pretty much hate them, but I'd rather work for big yellow and have verizon service than even touh AT&T they lie on a local level.
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You should take up Law School and become a Federal Judge in Atlanta so you can enforce your ethics on the rest of the world.
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