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truth about cingular

simplymarcus

Apr 1, 2005, 12:07 AM
I work for cingular in customer care. I have read a lot of posts about FCC and complaints and consumer reports. I have read employees of other carriers come in the cingular forum and post as much negativity about cingular as they can find in print. I am not saying cingular is perfect but I have had almost every wireless carrier and all have major flaws. Cingular's problems in billing come from the fact we offer rollover mintues and that took a while to get off the ground. Cingualr is the only carrier that u can put your cell phone bill on the same bill as your home phone bill. Having SBC and Bellsouth selling cingular is great it cost cingular very little money to sign up those customers. One big problem is their are a lot of laws againist t...
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TommyBoy

Apr 1, 2005, 12:27 AM
Cingular is not the only one that combines home and wireless bills.

Vzw's evdo is a new technology that new things are being tested on and just because a technology is capable of doing something doesnt mean its easy to get it to do it.

Look at the internet.. I am sure people knew it would become like it is today but remember how it started out?

What were the innovative products and services cingular offers?
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nextel18

Apr 1, 2005, 1:13 AM
"Cingular is an industry leader in wireless because of innovative products and services. Verizon offers you simplicity but nothing noval in wireless. They have EVDO but whay are they doing with it nothing not offering much but video clips"

what innovative products and services? by the way cingular is the industry leader BECUASE THEY WAISTED 41 billion dollars for att wireless that is/was a terrible company. verizon offers push to talk, vcast, camera phones, data content, DO, what does cingular offer thats so great? video clips is a very good product, well if your talking about VCAST which is a big hit. i dont see cingular has something that good.

so answer a few questions for me.
1. what innovative products and services that cingular...
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CelluNerd

Apr 1, 2005, 6:48 AM
Seriously nextel, what does it matter. If this person thinks that Cingular is overall better than verizon, who cares? They're just wireless carriers. People have opinions. You get all bent out of shape when someone states an opinion. THEY'RE JUST CELL PHONE COMPANIES! and what are you? a spokespan for nextel or verizon. seriously, you sound childish. like a kid arguing that his G.I. Joe is the best. For real man, get a life... you're waisting you're time. I personally use Cingular, but I'm not gonna go crazy all time and defend them in every aspect or go out telling people whats wrong with nextel, or verizon, etc... its pointless, if people want to go with cingular, or whoever, thats their decision. If you hate cingular so bad, then dont pos...
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SForsyth01

Apr 1, 2005, 11:59 AM
Oh, You should read the Verizon forum. He acts like Verizon is great here in the Cingular forum. But over in the VZW forum, he is continually bashing VZW stating how Sprint/Nextel is so much better than VZW.
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nextel18

Apr 1, 2005, 6:12 PM
i actually had cingular before as well as att wireless. i dont look for free stuff becuase i can afford their phones.

name calling? very interesting. he stated a fact that cingular is better than verizon and i wanted him to talk more about it. its not a big deal, however, you think it is for some reason i dont get.
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Liam20

Apr 1, 2005, 8:49 PM
Cheers Dude, 100% agree here, I do not log into this forum to read people's crap about what carrier is better. I don't got the tiem to sift through pointless messages, and if you want to rant, keep a journal, because none of us want to hear your sh*t. Thanks.
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simplymarcus

Apr 1, 2005, 7:08 AM
I did not say cingualr was better than Verizon and I did not say that Cingular was the only wirelelss carrer that has combined billing. I do not feel that Cingular is better than Verizon. I think that because of things like Fast Forward asnd rollover mintues and combined billing mistakes can happen. It gives cingular a lot more chances to screw up than Verizon. I was just saying that Verizon has VCAST and it has been a big hit but Cingular has MOBITV and so does sprint. Sprint was the first national wireless company to have anything like that on the cell phone. Cingular launched MOBITV before VCAST was out. The 41 billion dollars that u say cingular wasted it was not just the towers or spectrum or customers. It was all about getting into the...
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TommyBoy

Apr 1, 2005, 7:54 AM
"Cingualr is the only carrier that u can put your cell phone bill on the same bill as your home phone bill."

Don't know who said that..


"Cingular is an industry leader in wireless because of innovative products and services. Verizon offers you simplicity but nothing noval in wireless."

Vcast is a far cry from other video/tv services.. Have you even seen it in real life? Sprints tv service might as well be a slide show.

Back peddle more please.
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simplymarcus

Apr 1, 2005, 9:18 AM
i said it was the only national carrier not the only carrier DAM stop paraphrasing not back peddling. I did not say sprints TV service was good I just said they were the first. Vcast is cool I have seen it in real life i just htink they could do more with it than what they are doing with it. I just think the content is a weak and that is what makes it not that special. If you read my intital post I did not say Cingular is better than Verizon.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Apr 2, 2005, 4:36 PM
Marcus,
You are a breath of fresh air. You understand the industry and all of its limitations.
Every wireless carrier offers a service which they deliver with a degree of skill. They all have different ways of doing the same thing and that is what separates them.
I happen to prefer Verizon but that does not make you wrong. It is a preference.
Now having said that, I do believe that Cingular has some work to do in the arena of customer care. I am sure that they will iron out the problems. When you took on ATTWS you took on arguably the worst carrier at customer care. When Cingular bought ATTWS they bought all of the problems as well as the licenses. We will see what happens this year. If the complaints reduce then we can say it is pos...
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mmcnier

Apr 1, 2005, 11:58 AM
simplymarcus said:
I did not say that Cingular was the only wirelelss carrer that has combined billing.

Yes you did....

3/31/05 10:07 PM simplymarcus said:
Cingualr is the only carrier that u can put your cell phone bill on the same bill as your home phone bill.
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jramossteel

Apr 1, 2005, 5:36 PM
Here is a couple of questions for you too.
1.) What type of innovative products and/or services does Nextel offer?
2.) In what area is Nextel better than any company?
3.) Who do you feel is better, Nextel or Cingular and state why?

As for our answers try these on for size....
1.) MobiTV granted it may not run as smoothly as VzW's VCast but it is still available. Rollover, International plans with World Capable phones, Fast Forward- to allow unlimited incoming phone calls. The LARGEST MOBILE TO MOBILE NETWORK available.
2.) I for one believe service-wise Cingular is better than VzW in the Philadelphia area BECAUSE I used to work for VzW and used to be a customer of theirs and I have personally found that I have less dropped calls...
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ralph_on_me

Apr 1, 2005, 6:16 PM
Jackie, don't forget that Vcast is only one or two minute episodes while our mobile tv is live streaming television. I got to watch all the Pope stuff via CNN on my phone today. Verizon customers couldn't.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 2:23 PM
Very, Very good point. Now I just need a phone that supports Mobi-TV. Because my VZW phone doesn't get V-Cast where I work, and my Cingular phone does not support Mobi-TV. 😈
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Darth_Ix

Apr 1, 2005, 5:56 PM
It's always fun to read what you write. The last post I read from you was about how evil Cingular was and that everybody who has AT&T should stay with thier plans and how great those plans are comparativly. Are you ever consistent? Quit Trolling!
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nextel18

Apr 1, 2005, 6:22 PM
i am very consistent. look at the post that you responded too. i wanted that other person to talk about why he thinks cingular is better then verizon.
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mmcnier

Apr 1, 2005, 11:52 AM
simplymarcus said:
Cingualr is the only carrier that u can put your cell phone bill on the same bill as your home phone bill.


I AM NOT BASHING WHAT YOU SAID!!! I just want to make a small correction.😉

Where I live, we have Qwest & Verizon for home service. Used to have MCI also. When MCI offered home service & wireless service, they would combine the bills. Now we are left with Qwest & Verizon. Both companies offer combined billing. They even offer a discount for combining the billing. Both even take it one step further.... You can buy your Internet service through them as well & they will put it on the same bill too! 🙂 😁
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sleekcat

Apr 1, 2005, 12:03 PM
Are you in the New york, New Jersey area?
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mmcnier

Apr 1, 2005, 12:06 PM
Nope. I am in the Rockies! Hooray Snow!
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sleekcat

Apr 1, 2005, 12:09 PM
I just ask because I know I've seen the Verizon commercial for combined billing in the New York area but I wasn't aware that they had expanded it. Thanks for the info.
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mmcnier

Apr 1, 2005, 1:09 PM
Yeah, we have it in Colorado too. 🙂
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simplymarcus

Apr 1, 2005, 2:06 PM
Ia m sorry for my mistake about the combined billing comment. I can admit and accept the correction. my bad
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SForsyth01

Apr 1, 2005, 12:08 PM
Please research what you are saying before you post. Most of the major wireless carriers that also offer lan line service offer combined billing. Cingular is NOT the only company that has 2 major telecommunications corporations backing them, VZW has this too (Verizon, Corp. and Vodafone).

Rollover minutes ARE great. And I do agree with the fact that it could potentially cause billing issues.

And EVDO is phenomenal, while I agree there could me much more content.

In closing, I am a Cingular and VZW customer and I honestly feel that Cingular is a much better wireless carrier. But that is my OPINION!!! However, I support that opinion with factual data to back it up. Your post is completely unresearched and has no substance becau...
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mmcnier

Apr 1, 2005, 1:09 PM
Its LAND line, not LAN Line.
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SForsyth01

Apr 1, 2005, 1:57 PM
Pardon me, Mr. Perfect. 😈
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mmcnier

Apr 1, 2005, 2:03 PM
That face was unnecessary. I was just offering a little help. Don't take offense. 🙂
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KnifeySpooney

Apr 1, 2005, 2:46 PM
he missed a key, and left one letter off a word. No need to jump down his throat for it.
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mmcnier

Apr 1, 2005, 3:21 PM
KnifeySpooney said:
he missed a key, and left one letter off a word. No need to jump down his throat for it.

First, I did not jump down anyones throat. Most people know what when i scream, i used the old BOLD ITALIC BIG routine.

Second, I have seen plenty of people call them LAN lines though. Just a minor error.
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 2:49 PM
I leave for a week and our Happy Forum goes to H3ll.

What happened? So many flame wars have gone on this last week, Jackie isn't posting much anymore....

I want the Happy Forum back. đŸ˜ĸ đŸ‘ŋ đŸ˜ĸ
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jramossteel

Apr 1, 2005, 4:09 PM
I know... â˜šī¸
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 4:10 PM
This sucks Jackie â˜šī¸
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SForsyth01

Apr 1, 2005, 4:11 PM
That's what happens when nextel people invade the forum posting inaccurate information and attempting to start flame wars.

We are attempting to have the happy forum. It's just a little reserved right now.
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 4:13 PM
Well I want it to quit and Jackie to come back or im leaving too....this is insane.
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jramossteel

Apr 1, 2005, 4:36 PM
Aww.. I am still here guys! DON"T CRY! 😁
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 1:38 PM
Jackie never left.
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Shayby

Apr 2, 2005, 1:41 PM
She isn't on here as much as she used to be and she quit posting because of stupid arguments..
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 2:13 PM
Her and I have had a few conversations this week. I have not seen her stop posting. She is just not giving the people that post false information the satisfaction of responding to them. But she never left.
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KnifeySpooney

Apr 1, 2005, 4:13 PM
Shay, darling, it's to have you back.

Yeah, many parts of this forum have gone to crap lately. If people could get thier heads out of their butts, things might be better.

Want some happier entertainment? Check out the thread I started a few days ago called "Have you seen my phone?" Massive chaos and humor- physical violence, homoeroticism, AND making fun of Paris Hilton all in one thread!!
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 4:15 PM
Lol. Thanks KS.

It was good to be back..then I started reading threads. đŸ˜ĸ
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KnifeySpooney

Apr 1, 2005, 4:21 PM
A handful of us (Jackie, Shawn, myself and a few others) are trying to keep it cool. Some just have to go and start sh*t (**cough** **cough** nextel18 **cough**)
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 4:24 PM
Lmao well its good you guys are. Just wish others would quit trying to ruin our happy little community. lol

Good to see your still your smart a$$ self hehe.
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KnifeySpooney

Apr 1, 2005, 4:26 PM
Shayby said:
Good to see your still your smart a$$ self hehe.


**bows head**
I do what I can.
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busterhyman

Apr 1, 2005, 4:27 PM
*uses surprise junk kick technique to while knifey's head is looking down*

Take that MWAH HAHAHAHA

*runs away*
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KnifeySpooney

Apr 1, 2005, 4:29 PM
**bleeds all over the stuff on BusterHyman's desk while he runs away**
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jramossteel

Apr 1, 2005, 4:38 PM
Why do you keep kickin this poor man in his junk? 😕
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busterhyman

Apr 1, 2005, 4:42 PM
If you could see him you'd realize he deserves it 😈
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jramossteel

Apr 1, 2005, 4:43 PM
Awwww. that's so mean...
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KnifeySpooney

Apr 1, 2005, 4:44 PM
Buster is just mad because he couldn't get the day off. So he's taking it out on me.
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busterhyman

Apr 1, 2005, 4:45 PM
Well after Awhile I figured you wisen up and wear a cup.
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 5:27 PM
Quit Kicking him...i actually like KS.
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KnifeySpooney

Apr 1, 2005, 5:28 PM
Good for me!! 😁
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 5:28 PM
Lol your silly. Definately make me laugh. 😛
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busterhyman

Apr 1, 2005, 5:46 PM
Yeah Knifey is funny. FUNNY LOOKING.

Thought I'd share this, Customer just called, couldn't remember their wireless # because they were put to sleep while having work done on their colon-while they were having the work done some one stole their phone.
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ralph_on_me

Apr 1, 2005, 6:20 PM
The first time i expected to hear the words "colon" and "phone" in the same sentence was not the one you just said.
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busterhyman

Apr 1, 2005, 6:21 PM
😲 đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ That's gross
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 6:32 PM
Ok just got done with that thread...why do I miss all the good days. đŸ˜ĸ
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ralph_on_me

Apr 1, 2005, 6:40 PM
Shayby said:
Ok just got done with that thread...why do I miss all the good days. đŸ˜ĸ


Because you become ill, pass out, then go on vacation.

/signed capt. obvious man.
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 6:50 PM
ralph_on_me said:
Shayby said:
Ok just got done with that thread...why do I miss all the good days. đŸ˜ĸ


Because you become ill, pass out, then go on vacation.

/signed capt. obvious man.



LMAO đŸ¤Ŗ

This is not by choice (ok the vacation was, but it was a bad vacation if it makes you feel any better)
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 2:14 PM
Can we please stop junking each other???
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busterhyman

Apr 1, 2005, 5:02 PM
Well if you read any thread I hope you checked out the Have you seen my phone thread.

That was hours of entertainmetn
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jramossteel

Apr 1, 2005, 5:06 PM
Yeah it was... Where's my Dodge I was promised? đŸ‘ŋ
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busterhyman

Apr 1, 2005, 5:06 PM
I thought you cleared that up with the other guy, it was his key
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Shayby

Apr 1, 2005, 5:29 PM
Im working on the "Have you seen my phone" thread. Its freakin long thats why I haven't posted in a while.
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jramossteel

Apr 1, 2005, 5:39 PM
Oh yes... I still want my car though.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 3:59 PM
simplymarcus said:
Cingular's problems in billing come from the fact we offer rollover mintues and that took a while to get off the ground.
Rollover minutes have been around for quite a while now...so don't give us that line of crap. Cingular's billing problems don't only have to do with Rollover.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Apr 2, 2005, 5:22 PM
Other carriers have looked into rollover minutes but when field tested decided they were too hard on the billing system. Kind of like no carrier runs prepaid through their billing system. If Cingular can make them work reliably 100% of the time then good for them.
I also believe we should give the buyout dust some chance to settle before we make any real judgments.
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