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I cant help to notice that since the merger, Cingular has become more *cough* budget conscious.
Now, do not get me wrong. I love Cingular. I am a faithful customer & transitioned from ATTWS to Cingular.
I just cant help to notice that the family plan prices increased a while back. T-Mobile has 1000 mins w/ 2 lines for $69.99. This is the cost of a single line through Cingular.
Cingular.com has only 1 free phone (Samsung x427) TMobile.com has 8.
Cingular charges $9.99 for 3MB of data usage. Sprint offers a better value: unlimited data for $15.
Is this evidence of a new trend or is Cingular making it harder for themselves to gain customers?
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Now, do not get me wrong. I love Cingular. I am a faithful customer & transitioned from ATTWS to Cingular.
I just cant help to notice that the family plan prices increased a while back. T-Mobile has 1000 mins w/ 2 lines for $69.99. This is the cost of a single line through Cingular.
Cingular.com has only 1 free phone (Samsung x427) TMobile.com has 8.
Cingular charges $9.99 for 3MB of data usage. Sprint offers a better value: unlimited data for $15.
Is this evidence of a new trend or is Cingular making it harder for themselves to gain customers?
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You're right, the data plan rates should be looked over for competition sake. The coverage is much better, but the phones and of course, prices are not at all competitive. Unlimited data on the current plan is $24.99
That cannot compare to other offerings, even by Sprint, as you said, and much smaller carriers like US Cellular and Alltel. True the mobile web uses your minutes but at least it's $6.00 a month.
Anything under $20.00 would be a deal.
That cannot compare to other offerings, even by Sprint, as you said, and much smaller carriers like US Cellular and Alltel. True the mobile web uses your minutes but at least it's $6.00 a month.
Anything under $20.00 would be a deal.
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I think it's a form of corporate buyer's remorse--how many of us, after having made a really extravagant purchase, totally crack down on tiny expenditures? After taking on the huge burden of the ailing ATT, then having to shoulder the cost of merging billing systems and networks, retraining reps, and satisfying the debt burden Cingular assumed for ATT, the money dudes are panicking a little bit and are starting to think that they have this big old pool of captive customers who don't have as many options as they used to... They'd better think hard before they go too far, though, because the average customer doesn't give a rat's butt about coverage in some area they've never been, but does care a LOT about their own overage and the fact that ...
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Like i said, I am happy with that i have gotten from Cingular (even though it was cheaper from ATTWS), but your right Aleq. It will come to bite them in the ass one of these days.
T-Mobile may not have as large of network or as many customers, but with roaming agreements & such, they seem to be a better deal for now. I think that with the "Corporate Buyers Remorse" you mentioned... Other companies stand to profit from this. Especially when their logo clearly states "Get More".
I always look to get more for my dollar.
T-Mobile may not have as large of network or as many customers, but with roaming agreements & such, they seem to be a better deal for now. I think that with the "Corporate Buyers Remorse" you mentioned... Other companies stand to profit from this. Especially when their logo clearly states "Get More".
I always look to get more for my dollar.
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mmcnier said:
Like i said, I am happy with that i have gotten from Cingular (even though it was cheaper from ATTWS), but your right Aleq. It will come to bite them in the ass one of these days.
T-Mobile may not have as large of network or as many customers, but with roaming agreements & such, they seem to be a better deal for now. I think that with the "Corporate Buyers Remorse" you mentioned... Other companies stand to profit from this. Especially when their logo clearly states "Get More".
I always look to get more for my dollar.
Also, TMo does have one advantage that it has had for a looooooong time... 1 year contracts. They do not offer anything with a 2-year agreement. This is rare.
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Yeah, it's during these unsettled times that TMo's "wait and see" policy really works out for us. We picked up a TON of customers during the first month of WLNP (quite a few from ATT) and we'll be here waiting for the disgruntled to come calling. We may not be the biggest or the most technologically advanced, but we're an extremely good value for the money on all fronts, our customer service kicks butt and our coverage is lovely unless you happen to live in BFE Cow Country... 🤣
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Aleq said:Who goes to cow country except the cow tippers or dung eaters?
Yeah, it's during these unsettled times that TMo's "wait and see" policy really works out for us. We picked up a TON of customers during the first month of WLNP (quite a few from ATT) and we'll be here waiting for the disgruntled to come calling. We may not be the biggest or the most technologically advanced, but we're an extremely good value for the money on all fronts, our customer service kicks butt and our coverage is lovely unless you happen to live in BFE Cow Country... 🤣
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muchdrama said:Aleq said:Who goes to cow country except the cow tippers or dung eaters?
Yeah, it's during these unsettled times that TMo's "wait and see" policy really works out for us. We picked up a TON of customers during the first month of WLNP (quite a few from ATT) and we'll be here waiting for the disgruntled to come calling. We may not be the biggest or the most technologically advanced, but we're an extremely good value for the money on all fronts, our customer service kicks butt and our coverage is lovely unless you happen to live in BFE Cow Country... 🤣
My point precisely, and one which gets sharpened regularly by contact with the flesh of mindless "TMo h...
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Actually, Cingular get coverage in Cow Country too! Check Penrose Colorado... My grandfather lives there. I get FULL SIGNAL there! That town has a population of 500 or so.
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As of right now, T Mo doesn't even offer service in my state (NC). Not quite a metropolitan state but from Cow Country 😁
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True, but Bell South and ATT have it locked up tighter than a bug's butt in that state. We have roaming agreements there, but you can't get a local TMo number...
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i havent looked at T's coverage map in a while, so i just did, and man it still looks like a spiderweb like it did a year ago.
in comparison, in the last year, Cingular's "spiderweb" GSM map now looks similar to Verizon's covergae map (except for the deserts and forests out west).
If you build it, they will come 😉
in comparison, in the last year, Cingular's "spiderweb" GSM map now looks similar to Verizon's covergae map (except for the deserts and forests out west).
If you build it, they will come 😉
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Aleq said:...muchdrama said:Yeah well...for all you Tmob bashers out there, my parents Sprint phones didAleq said:Who goes to cow country except the cow tippers or dung eaters?
Yeah, it's during these unsettled times that TMo's "wait and see" policy really works out for us. We picked up a TON of customers during the first month of WLNP (quite a few from ATT) and we'll be here waiting for the disgruntled to come calling. We may not be the biggest or the most technologically advanced, but we're an extremely good value for the money on all fronts, our customer service kicks butt and our coverage is lovely unless you happen to live in BFE Cow Country... 🤣
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muchdrama said:
Yeah well...for all you Tmob bashers out there, my parents Sprint phones didn't work in North Carolina, and my Verizon phone doesn't work in my friend's flat. Conspiracy!
My point precisely, and one which gets sharpened regularly by contact with the flesh of mindless "TMo has no coverage" wankers... 🙄
Everyone knows that many things vary when it comes to coverage. Things such as atmospheric interference, geographical interference, lead paint etc. BTW... MuchDrama, Are you British? (this is not a joke)
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mmcnier said:LOL. No...that last half of the reply was actually Aleq...he hasn't quite mastered the "message above, quoted" function. Teehee.muchdrama said:
Yeah well...for all you Tmob bashers out there, my parents Sprint phones didn't work in North Carolina, and my Verizon phone doesn't work in my friend's flat. Conspiracy!
My point precisely, and one which gets sharpened regularly by contact with the flesh of mindless "TMo has no coverage" wankers... 🙄
Everyone knows that many things vary when it comes to coverage. Things such as atmospheric interference, geographical interference, lead paint etc. BTW... MuchDrama, Are you British? (this is not a joke)
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Actually, muchdrama, YOU are the one who doinked up the quote, NOT me... 😛 And no, I'm not British, just an Anglophone/phile. Plus, "wanker" is just an inherently amusing word... 🤣
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Aleq said:In the immortal words of Nextel18: "Give me a link to show I'm wrong, please". 😁
Actually, muchdrama, YOU are the one who doinked up the quote, NOT me... 😛 And no, I'm not British, just an Anglophone/phile. Plus, "wanker" is just an inherently amusing word... 🤣
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tmobs unlimited wap data is 4.99
unlimited sidekick data which gets you unlimited texts, email and internet usage - 20.00
get on the ball cingular.
unlimited sidekick data which gets you unlimited texts, email and internet usage - 20.00
get on the ball cingular.
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Aleq said:
...our coverage is lovely unless you happen to live in BFE Cow Country... 🤣
or just about anywhere in Niagara county in Upstate NY. this includes a few colleges, and some large towns 😉
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Hey, nobody's perfect! Where I live, TMo kicks butt over every single carrier for coverage and I have 1000 min, unlt'd N/W, nationwide for forty bucks a month, 300 SMS for 2.99 and unlimited WAP for 4.99. When we get to YOUR town, look us up! 🤣
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Aleq said:
When we get to YOUR town, look us up! 🤣
im not shopping around - i work for "Big Orange"... 😉 🤣
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I would rather work for a company where I KNOW I'm going to get paid. I don't except rubber paychecks, thank you very much.
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i just used the address lookup on T's website, and according to it, my store is allegedly in a good to high coverage area, yet when T customers come in my store, they have 1 to no bars on their phones.
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I cant help to notice that since the merger, Cingular has become more *cough* budget conscious.
Now, do not get me wrong. I love Cingular. I am a faithful customer & transitioned from ATTWS to Cingular.
I just cant help to notice that the family plan prices increased a while back. T-Mobile has 1000 mins w/ 2 lines for $69.99. This is the cost of a single line through Cingular.
Cingular.com has only 1 free phone (Samsung x427) TMobile.com has 8.
Cingular charges $9.99 for 3MB of data usage. Sprint offers a better value: unlimited data for $15.
Is this evidence of a new trend or is Cingular making it harder for themselves to gain customers?
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just my observation, not a fact...
Merger = too many employees
make working conditions harder = people start to quit
people quit = no scuffles with unions + company looks better for not laying off people
workforce gets reasonable = working conditions improve and prices come down again to achieve this
...again, this is only a thought of one person, not fact nor even a rumor.
Merger = too many employees
make working conditions harder = people start to quit
people quit = no scuffles with unions + company looks better for not laying off people
workforce gets reasonable = working conditions improve and prices come down again to achieve this
...again, this is only a thought of one person, not fact nor even a rumor.
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You cant really say that though. Cingular has laid off employees due to the merger. I think that it would be nice if it worked the way you mentioned, but in reality.....
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In reality, Cingular just acquired 26 million customers and still signing up at least 1 million more a year. Customer support, sales, billing, and all the assetts acquired from the "ailing" (Really funny since ATTWS was making MORE money per year than Cingular EVER dreamed.) attws would put a strain on the budget, not even considering the purchase price. There's a lot of factors to consider in this, and since T-Mobile is not even really a threat by any standard, and Verizon is about to spend 80,000,000 bucks on updating their dinosaur system, right now is an EXCELLENT opportunity to tighten up.
In this regard, I'll have to give the Cingular big boys props, because they have nothing to worry about.
On the flip side, with all the changes...
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In this regard, I'll have to give the Cingular big boys props, because they have nothing to worry about.
On the flip side, with all the changes...
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wstrainer said:
In reality, Cingular just acquired 26 million customers and still signing up at least 1 million more a year.
More like 1 million per quarter.
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I had a customer today get really mad at me today because I couldn't waive his activation nor could I sell him the X427m for $19.99 after the rebate on a ONE year contract. He told me cingular was nothing but grubby penny pinchers. 🤣 OH Well he can go to T-Mobile and have a significant drop in coverage!!!
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thats a dumbass comment
you are ignorant
the tmobile coverage could be extremely strong in his area...
you are ignorant
the tmobile coverage could be extremely strong in his area...
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