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Raising the Bar? You don't see VZW having these problems.

bigdaddyjay

Apr 8, 2005, 4:20 PM
How many people were affected due to this little Snafu yesterday???????? Read the posting today from Wirelessweek.com.

Cingular Service Disrupted in San Diego
By Susan Rush
April 8, 2005
news@2 direct

For a few hours yesterday, some Cingular Wireless customers in San Diego found themselves temporarily without service.

The network outage, which caused intermittent service disruptions, lasted a few hours yesterday, according to Cingular Wireless spokesman Ritch Blasi. Service to all customers has since been restored, he says.

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Cingular Wireless, with 50 million customers, merged with AT&T Wireless in October to create the largest wireless service provider in the U...
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tadams

Apr 8, 2005, 4:28 PM
Don't start crap here buddy. You already posted this in another forum. You are just posting it again to get a rise. Go home.
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lordrevan05

Apr 8, 2005, 6:58 PM
😛 Yeah, we get enough of that crap from NEXTEL18!!!
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tadams

Apr 8, 2005, 4:30 PM
Since you are so good at switching forums, my reply to the one in Verizon is this... Tell me the last time that Cingular had an outage like that????
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 8, 2005, 4:48 PM
Lets see, there was the outage in Texas last year right before Christmas. I think that one was blamed on a GSM overlay Snafu. I guess a major outage per quarter isn't bad for a company. 🤣
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tadams

Apr 8, 2005, 5:02 PM
I would bet that Verizon has major issues just as often buddy. Maybe you should spend some time doing research on your own company before you go around parading how WONDERFUL it is. They are getting left behind in the dust by Cingular, so we must be doing something right.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 8, 2005, 5:11 PM
I don't work for Verizon and I am tired of idiots from the Cingular forum flamebaiting on the Verizon forum. Since when has Cingular left Verizon in the dust? 80,000 more net adds in the first quarter and Verizon is in the dust? You had better watch out for the first quarter numbers, My Brother who is in Network Engineering at Verizon said that the first quarter numbers at Verizon will be well above what people are predicting!
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tadams

Apr 8, 2005, 5:18 PM
Um...I didn't go do anything on the Verizon forum buddy. You came to the CINGULAR forum and made a post because you wanted us to go back and forth with you. Cingular is currently leaving Cingluar in the dust. Bottom line, we have more customers, we are the new #1. Verizon had it, and didn't keep it up. That shows me that they are lacking somewhere. I understand that the Merger had alot to do with it, but that also left it open to kill Cingular as well, and so far so good. It was smart to merge with AT&T. Cingular knew that was one of the only ways to get to #1, but it didn't mean that it would be easy, or that it will be easy to stay there. Youll put your foot in your mouth eventually, kinda like you already have with the reply you j...
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lil_wayne_1029

Apr 8, 2005, 5:24 PM
bigdaddyjay.. Please shut the **** up already all ur trying to do is start a flame war and not on a new topic either but a topic that is as old and dumb as the three hairs you have on your head so start ur flame war on another forum. all cariers have there advantages and disadvantages.

Thank You have a nice day
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tadams

Apr 8, 2005, 5:24 PM
CORRECTION, leaving verizon in the dust 🤭
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 8, 2005, 6:33 PM
Yes, you are the new number 1! How long will Cingular stay there? Verizon had it since April of 2000 and it Cingular couldn't add customers so they bought ATT for 41 Billion to get ahead.
I wonder what would happen if Verizon bought a small Tier 2 carrier like Alltel. Oh that's right they would be back at number 1 and wouldn't spend 41 billion dollars to get there.
The funny thing is that Verizon is in no hurry to buy their way back to number 1, seems they aren't worried besides they posted a profit in the fourth quarter and only fell short of Cingular's net adds by 80,000. Be ****y all you want now that your company will have to lay off 6,000 people this year. Hope you didn't come from ATT, I'm sure that is where Cingular will s...
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SForsyth01

Apr 9, 2005, 10:58 AM
Jay, you have to be talking about kingfrog. Let me tell you, he is not a regular member of this forum. He mainly exists as a troll in the VZW forum. No one here likes him either.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 12:28 PM
SForsyth01 said:
Jay, you have to be talking about kingfrog. Let me tell you, he is not a regular member of this forum. He mainly exists as a troll in the VZW forum. No one here likes him either.
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Kingfrog is a spank but I do see you, Phoenixashes, Ruff1415, simplymarcus, jramosteel, ho md guy, and lordevan in the Verizon forum talking crap.

I use VZW here in Chicago and My brother works for the company, I started using this site when my bro told me about it so that I could see some of the new phones on the horizon.

I worked for Verizon the first two years of the merger and before with GTE and Ameritech cellular in an offline tech support role dealing with roaming load issues, switch relate...
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kingfrog77

Apr 9, 2005, 12:39 PM
Blah Blah Blah........

BigdaddyJay say:

Im sorry Cingy please accept me. Im just gettting back at you here becasue your Cingy people have come and crapped in my backyard.....and as the yard dog I have to defend the form. Please accept me.

Look heres my background. See? I am one of you and I do know things. I worked in the Biz...see?I am relavant. Please accept me. I am not that nasty frog guy.

Cingular is good. Verizon is good. Sprint is good. We are all good.....please accept me. I come as a friend in the biz.


Puleeeeze BigDaddyJay....you make me laugh hard...all the time and effort you spent in your thesis...... may pay off though. You may get the respect you so desperately need in these forums............

No your not...
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 12:59 PM
You make Cingular look bad Froggy and you start more flame wars than anyone. You work in Vegas? That is a laugh, at least I am honest about my job and where I've worked in the past. You are a pathetic idiot that people write posts to Rich about seeing if you can be removed. You know nothing about this Industry and you start wars over things you can't explain.

I stated my point and if people get it fine if not oh well. I am not looking for acceptance, besides nobody in these forums knows who they are talking to. For all we know Kingfrog is a convict in Prison yet Frog sayd he is Vegas Material!

The only reason you use this site Kingfrog is because it is the only place in life people get a rise and talk or talk crap about you...
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kingfrog77

Apr 9, 2005, 1:16 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
You make Cingular look bad Froggy and you start more flame wars than anyone. You work in Vegas? That is a laugh, at least I am honest about my job and where I've worked in the past. You are a pathetic idiot that people write posts to Rich about seeing if you can be removed. You know nothing about this Industry and you start wars over things you can't explain.

I stated my point and if people get it fine if not oh well. I am not looking for acceptance, besides nobody in these forums knows who they are talking to. For all we know Kingfrog is a convict in Prison yet Frog sayd he is Vegas Material!

The only reason you use this site Kingfrog is because it is the only place in life people get
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 1:24 PM
Somehow I don't think that I am looking for anyone to love in this site. I am just looking for people that have knowledge andopinions on cellular related issues.


I have the current state mandated licensing that was implemented in Illionois this year by the Governor and it sucked. We had to pay to take a class and pay to take a test to get liscensed in Illinois to be a loan officer which we didn't prior to this year. I guess the state is getting rid of all of the Convicts like you Froggy and making sure that people with criminal records and Ill intentions are not allowed to practice.
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kingfrog77

Apr 9, 2005, 1:44 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
Somehow I don't think that I am looking for anyone to love in this site. I am just looking for people that have knowledge and opinions on cellular related issues.


Here's some opinion. Verizon sucks.
Here's some knowledge. You're an ass.

I love you man...its gonna be ok.
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jramossteel

Apr 9, 2005, 12:48 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
SForsyth01 said:
Jay, you have to be talking about kingfrog. Let me tell you, he is not a regular member of this forum. He mainly exists as a troll in the VZW forum. No one here likes him either.
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Kingfrog is a spank but I do see you, Phoenixashes, Ruff1415, simplymarcus, jramosteel, ho md guy, and lordevan in the Verizon forum talking crap.

In my defense and you can do a search in the VzW forum, I never started anything, just questioned things and the last time I was there was 02/21/2005, almost two months ago.
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kingfrog77

Apr 9, 2005, 12:56 PM
jramossteel said:
bigdaddyjay said:
SForsyth01 said:
Jay, you have to be talking about kingfrog. Let me tell you, he is not a regular member of this forum. He mainly exists as a troll in the VZW forum. No one here likes him either.


Kingfrog is a spank but I do see you, Phoenixashes, Ruff1415, simplymarcus, jramosteel, ho md guy, and lordevan in the Verizon forum talking crap.

In my defense and you can do a search in the VzW forum, I never started anything, just questioned things and the last time I was there was 02/21/2005, almost two months ago.




You need to get out more JRam.........LOL
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 1:02 PM
Why so he can be a flame baiting idiot with nothing to do but sit in Prison and start flame wars like you?

I apologize to you JRam, your name rang a bell when I was in this forum and I included you.

KingTroll you are a Moron and Neverland misses you.
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jramossteel

Apr 9, 2005, 1:04 PM
That's okay... I just don't start those things, not worth it.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 1:09 PM
I hear you, I got carried away and found my inner Frog. I feel cheap and worthless for that which I did yesterday and that is why I set the record straight. KingTroll on the other hand in over in the VZW forum talking smack about how a got whupped in here. I really think Rich is making a mistake letting him stay in here but that is not my call.
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kingfrog77

Apr 9, 2005, 1:19 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
I hear you, I got carried away and found my inner Frog. I feel cheap and worthless for that which I did yesterday and that is why I set the record straight. KingTroll on the other hand in over in the VZW forum talking smack about how a got whupped in here. I really think Rich is making a mistake letting him stay in here but that is not my call.


OMG you are too funny. Who is this? Certainly not the big bad Big Bad Daddy. So contrite/....You fell cheap and worthless? Poor baby.......YOu do sound like a Whuupped puppy..come on. LOL
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RUFF1415

Apr 9, 2005, 1:34 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
I really think Rich is making a mistake letting him stay in here but that is not my call.


I second that opinion.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 5:09 PM
Nice to find something we can agree on!
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SForsyth01

Apr 9, 2005, 5:52 PM
Jackie??? Marcus???? You have lost your mind. I have not seen either one of them talk crap in the VZW forum. Me, I do talk crap over there, but only when I see false information posted about Cingular.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 7:36 PM
Marcus is guilty as charged but who is Jackie?
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jramossteel

Apr 9, 2005, 7:54 PM
Me
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 7:58 PM
I already said I was wrong regarding naming you. Oh well what can you do?
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jramossteel

Apr 9, 2005, 8:12 PM
I did not read everything... I just answered your question to who is jackie 😕
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storm99

Apr 9, 2005, 9:24 AM
Cingular is without question raising the bar. The best digital service in the country, clear calls, great phones, and the latest technology is a great start alone...but with the outstanding 50 million customers, it makes the reality of a true wireless world a dream come true.

Who knows how high the bar can go.
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davidg4781

Apr 9, 2005, 6:40 PM
There's no way there was an outage here. It was a problem with my phone, along with many other's phones. At least, that's what Cingular told me when I called to see what was going on.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 7:37 PM
That is not what the LA Times reported.
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davidg4781

Apr 10, 2005, 4:48 AM
I was talking about an outage in TX. And, I was being facetious. 😁
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 7:39 PM
davidg4781 said:
There's no way there was an outage here. It was a problem with my phone, along with many other's phones. At least, that's what Cingular told me when I called to see what was going on.


Another article about the outage. (kind of more clear)

by nextel18 Yesterday, 8:09 PM



http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cingular8apr08 ... » ...


some snipits


An outage in San Diego knocked out service for numerous Cingular Wireless customers for nearly four hours Thursday.

Cingular, which is 60% owned by SBC Communications Inc., said a problem with some gear caused intermittent outages that left an undetermined number of customers without voice or data service.

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Shayby

Apr 9, 2005, 7:41 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
davidg4781 said:
There's no way there was an outage here. It was a problem with my phone, along with many other's phones. At least, that's what Cingular told me when I called to see what was going on.




And obviously that went over your head!
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tadams

Apr 8, 2005, 5:21 PM
I am going home now, just wanted to tell you to BITE ME!
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jinx7676

Apr 8, 2005, 7:15 PM
tadams said:
I am going home now, just wanted to tell you to BITE ME!


wow, the intelligence factor here blows me away. i know there are no age limits on the forum, but i didn't realize 10 year olds were so interested in mobile phone discussions.
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tadams

Apr 9, 2005, 10:14 AM
I don't know if you have read the rest of my posts here, but I in no way act like a 10 year old in here. If you decide to judge on here, do it to the right people. My post may not have been the most mature thing, but it happens every now and then. Sure wouldn't want to offend someone as "intelligent" as you. Don't judge me.
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bizkitsngravy

Apr 8, 2005, 5:24 PM
For the love of....people, it's a cellular service! How many people truly know how many components make up a network? It's insane! Things will break every now and then that's to be expected. It's suceptible to things such as weather, terrain, man made structures, "bloopers", etc, and is always subject to unavailibility. Even says so in every carriers terms and conditions.

Granted it must have been a big outage to have a news story on it but "outages" happen every day and are fixed relitively quickly. That's with anyone. Keep on truckin.
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Aux_Abuse_702

Apr 8, 2005, 6:51 PM
thats bound to happen with every carrier sometime..
before i switched from verizon (thank god i did) it happened here in las vegas for about 4 hours last year
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coldsteel

Apr 8, 2005, 8:20 PM
No, VZW just gets sued for crippling Bluetooth... 😎
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nextel18

Apr 8, 2005, 8:57 PM
they also got hit a few days or so ago in mass, conn and ny state. uhh oh. i hope this isnt a trend.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 8, 2005, 9:00 PM
No kidding huh, that really surprises me. More bars in more places, that's the goal of the new Cingular. 🙄
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nextel18

Apr 8, 2005, 9:02 PM
hey soon it will be a nationwide problem, just like their roll out of hsdpa and push to talk. 🙂

i thought cingular was so great with this merger and now there were 2 outages. hmm. highiest complaints, overspent, 2 outages. i seriously hope this isnt a trend.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 8, 2005, 9:17 PM
Trend? Just another day at the office for Stan Sigman, I can hear him now "I'm sorry ED(Whitacre) but it isn't that easy getting two networks together but we did add 1.8 million customers and we are number one now so the customers will understand" 🤣
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nextel18

Apr 8, 2005, 9:23 PM
hahaha. true true.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 8, 2005, 9:31 PM
Welcome to the new Cingular!
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nextel18

Apr 8, 2005, 9:38 PM
oh i know. all over network and raising the bar, welcome to the new cingular, were we are facing a number of integration problems, high complaint lists and levels, and 2 outages so far. very good start by us.
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CelluNerd

Apr 9, 2005, 7:54 AM
Are you guys having fun getting off of dissing wireless companies? I mean for real, how lame is that? Dont you have something better to do with your time? Ok, lets say you think Cingular sucks, WHO CARES!??! Why are you so up for dissing? What goal do you wish to accomplish by doing this? It makes no sense at all...
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repCB

Apr 9, 2005, 9:42 AM
Maybe he's a secret agent for Nextel, and his goal is to destroy the competition by using the most influential forum in the entire wireless industry today, the phenomenon that is PHONE SCOOP.

HE WHO CONTROLS PHONE SCOOP, CONTROLS THE INDUSTRY!!!
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CelluNerd

Apr 9, 2005, 10:12 AM
I certainly dont think phonescoop is the most influential forum in the entire wireless industry. I think that would be HowardForums... thats just my opinion though.
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coldsteel

Apr 9, 2005, 11:58 AM
They are just a couple of trolls. Ignore them, and the threads will die.
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 12:00 PM
Did Cingular ever bring back the free coffee in the break rooms of the call centers or do reps still have to pay for coffee?
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coldsteel

Apr 9, 2005, 12:02 PM
It's been free for the 2 1/2 years I've been here, matey.

Plus, you haven't answered my post about the BT lawsuit. VZW doesn't screw up, eh? 😎
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bigdaddyjay

Apr 9, 2005, 1:07 PM
I haven't answered it because I have no interest in Bluetooth and don't care. Do I think Verizon is being greedy with the crippling of Bluetooth? Sure, it reminds me of when companies used to make electronic devices that only their headset would work on.

I wish Verizon had a legitimate reason for doing what they did with the bluetooth devices and I have a V710 on the way so I might learn more. I wish Verizon and the rest of the U.S. carriers would adopt CDMA Sim Card technology so that I could do more with multiple devices.

Where I live VZW and US Cell are the best carriers and so I support the company that goves me the service I need. I have used VZW from Hawaii to New York City and they have done me right.
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rayban

Dec 29, 2006, 3:49 PM
im sure they have to pay. cingular nickel and dimes everyone 👀
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nextel18

Apr 9, 2005, 1:50 PM
i am just stating facts and giving opinions, not really dissing as much.
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kingfrog77

Apr 9, 2005, 2:13 PM
CelluNerd said:
Are you guys having fun getting off of dissing wireless companies? I mean for real, how lame is that? Dont you have something better to do with your time? Ok, lets say you think Cingular sucks, WHO CARES!??! Why are you so up for dissing? What goal do you wish to accomplish by doing this? It makes no sense at all...


Well my goal is to read posts like yours.....Seems I achieved it.Thanks.

Why is it you guys think many sit here all day on this forum staring at the screen waiting for a response? A little self centered are we? Or better thats what you guys actually do while you work. I spend much of my day on the net anyway when Im on the road. When Im home I don as much. (Ill be home in J...
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WonkotheSane

Dec 29, 2006, 4:17 PM
You mean problems like VZW had, oh, yesterday?
http://www.dailynews.com/antelopevalley/ci_4910167 »
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evoreplica

Jan 6, 2007, 2:38 AM
This article talks about a little area that was affected. Sure vzw restored the service faster than any wireless carrier. Hah compare this to a whole network outage.
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chocolateman85006

Jan 2, 2007, 2:47 PM
Very true. VZW beats (maims, destroys, kills, whatever word[s] that you wanna put in) Cingy in reception, among other things.
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wombough

Jan 2, 2007, 2:50 PM
Oh yeah? Ask people in Barstow California who they have. I bet all have Cingular. Want to know why? Thats all that provides service their. Can you hear me now??
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wombough

Jan 2, 2007, 2:50 PM
I meant Bridgeport Ca!
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RUFF1415

Jan 2, 2007, 2:51 PM
I disagree.
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