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Where's this merger going?

CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 4:28 PM
When I first heard about the Cingular/ATTWS merger I was really interested in finding out more info about how this will affect customers. I was told by many reps that customers will benefit in many different ways. To name a few:
Better rate plans
More phones
Faster rollout of phones
Improved customer service
free mobile to mobile to 46million people
better network

so far, ive seen the mobile to mobile part... but im not sure about the rest. I was really positive about this merger, but lately, i've been re-thinking this whole thing. I really like having Cingular as my wireless carrier, don't get me wrong, its just where are these lower prices?? Rate plans have increased in price, there no better prices on phones either. Faster rollo...
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 12, 2005, 4:29 PM
You have to give it sometime, they're working on it and eventually they'll get it. You must be patient grasshopper! 🙂
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 4:33 PM
I think it was a bad move increasing the rate plan pricing. That sucked...
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 12, 2005, 4:34 PM
I agree on that one, their rate plans went down the hill.

I'm lucky I got my plan before they changed them, especially the Media Net plan that included MMS, SMS, and Unlimited Internet, way worth $20!
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Pattycakes2004

Apr 12, 2005, 4:55 PM
yah it sux, but its called Revinue Intesity for all of those that work for Cingular. 1 of the much loved 4 R's.
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jramossteel

Apr 12, 2005, 5:09 PM
Yeah and REPUTATION! The scary one 😳
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uNt0uChAbLe

Apr 13, 2005, 8:09 AM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
I agree on that one, their rate plans went down the hill.


You kinda have to think about it from a business standpoint as well. You have this new company that is taking over the #1 spot which leads to higher demand. So all the CEOs of Cingular sit back and say "well sh!t, we have all these people who want Cingular, why not raise the prices so we can make more money?" Yeah its kinda backwards from what most large companies like WalMart do but you dont see any of us dropping Cingular because of their higher rate plans do you?
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 13, 2005, 8:56 AM
Well, Im not dropping them because I got my plan before they prices went up, but if I didnt have Cingular, there's no way I'd go with them with their current prices and I'm sure it does deflect alot of their potential customers.
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jramossteel

Apr 13, 2005, 9:22 AM
You can yes on that and say no... BECAUSE VzW's plans were soooo much higher than anyone else when they were number one and people still went to them.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 13, 2005, 9:27 AM
I think Verzon gets alot of their customers cause of their "best network" thing. Which as well all know is determined by in-house tests.

But if Verizon found their test results to show that they weren't the best, you surely wouldn't see that in their adds, so they put what they want people to see, obviously.

I agree, Verizon's prices were higher and always have been it seems. It's certainly not their plan prices or sweet selection of phones that gets them customers, at least I dont think so, I feel they're lacking in those 2 fields.

I'm not the type of person thats ALL about the service, the type of phone has alot to do with it. I need all the bells and whistles to go with my service! 🤣 I love my S710a! 😁
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Aux_Abuse_702

Apr 12, 2005, 5:44 PM
i agree man, im not tryin to wait 2 years before things start pickin up. If things dont drastically improve by the time my contract is up (which is 21 damn months) then ill look else where.
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 7:30 PM
Shoot, my wife's phone ends in november, so if there's no improvements by then, I'll be happy to pay the early termination fee and go with T-Mobile with my phone too. Again, I like Cingular, but so far things have gone downhill.
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 7:39 PM
hmm thats interesting. everyone on here is saying how cingular is doing so well, yet you and a few others are saying that service has been going down and no improvments. thats interesting.

tmobile is better in your area then cingular/att wireless?
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Aux_Abuse_702

Apr 12, 2005, 7:41 PM
well i live in las vegas
cingular owns all of the towers here that tmobile uses so its pretty much the same service but tmob has better plans, features and so on..
although tmob is going to purchase the nv/cali towers from cingular here soon.
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 7:47 PM
thats interesting. one would think that cingular's service would be better, but i looked on the tmobile site and it looks like lV is a pretty good coverage area. you can see the street level of your location so enter your street addy on the coverage area and see if its good or not. hows cdma out there? last time i went it was good and this was with sprint a long time ago about 8-9 years lol...
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 7:49 PM
are you talking to me nextel?
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 7:52 PM
both, i guess.
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 7:43 PM
"I was told by many reps that customers will benefit in many different ways. To name a few:
Better rate plans
More phones
Faster rollout of phones
Improved customer service
free mobile to mobile to 46million people
better network"

exactly. execs said the same thing, guess what? none of what they said actually happened. (cept for 50 million mobile to mobile)

that is what i have been saying. this wont be a smooth merger as everyone on this board has been saying. hence the increase complaints, and high churn.

"And lately, I've been getting a weaker signal in my area... I thought this maybe just a fluke, but it's getting to the point where I'm getting at least 5 dropped calls in one day, and I've also thought it might have been t...
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 7:45 PM
Yeah, its pretty rough man. I really wish these dropped calls would ease up. It happens mainly around 5pm EST. Seriously though, I hope things start changing for the better, one of the main reasons why I stay with Cingular is because of the media works plan i have with unlimited data usage on my phone...
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Scotian

Apr 12, 2005, 7:48 PM
Conjested towers is probably the culprit.. Think about it, its quitting time, ppl calling home, checking msg's, etc... 😉
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 7:50 PM
maybe thats it, but when i had verizon, i never had one dropped call, no matter what time. maybe cingular is just too popular here down in south florida... i wont go back to verizon because i cannot recieve calls while on online with my phone.
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Scotian

Apr 12, 2005, 7:51 PM
It very well could be that the signal sucks... I was just giving a possible reason as to why. 🙂
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 7:51 PM
i mean i experienced the same problem too. remember i told you i had cingular and att wireless seperately then i got it when it was a combined company? well cingular/att wireless combined was terrible. i mean i have nextel and i dont even get 5 drop calls a year let alone a day and iden is a little bit weak nationwide. suprising how you get so many drop calls. could be a problem building up within the tower as well as maybe they had to sell off a lot of spectrum in that area which hurts you. capacity could increase which could also hurt you and others. i bet if your experiencing it and others are too and thats a shame. i truly feel bad. i mean when i had cingular/att wireless when they were together, i had a problem with my nextel phones be...
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Scotian

Apr 12, 2005, 7:52 PM
nextel18, man o man , you're a typing machine..lol.
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 7:57 PM
hahah. thanks. i like to type. i also can type quite fast becuase i play piano. sometimes i use those voice recognition softwares but they dont work that well for some reason.
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uNt0uChAbLe

Apr 13, 2005, 8:14 AM
CelluNerd said:
Yeah, its pretty rough man. I really wish these dropped calls would ease up. It happens mainly around 5pm EST.


Wow thats so funny that you said that. I thought I was the only one. Everyday it takes about 6 or 7 redials to finally be able to make a call. I never had that problem when I had Verizon. But what can you do?
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Correction

Apr 12, 2005, 7:52 PM
All of the above list is true. For many customers all of that did happen. (Well I guess the customer service part is debatable. But I know that Blue cust are loving *services.)


Its impossible for everything to get better for EVERYONE.

Rate plans are better than what some customers had. Worse for others. Thats life

More phones, True! There are alot more phones available!

Faster rollout, I believe its true but to be honest not sure. I don't keep track of when new phones come out.

Improved Customer Service, As I said, Debatable. Star Services are great. IVR sucks. Hard to get to right department. Overall I'm leaning towards worse. But for some I'm sure they will say its greatly improved.

M2M, 50M nuff said

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Scotian

Apr 12, 2005, 7:54 PM
I think that the Customer Service will get better too. *hoping* 😕
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 7:55 PM
well i have no problem with customer service so far, i have had a few bad corp store reps though. but mainly because they had "ugly" customers before me, still that shouldnt be a reason to treat the next person without the fullnest of excellent cust. service, ya know what i mean?
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Scotian

Apr 12, 2005, 7:58 PM
YEP, sure do! I was trained to treat every new call as if were your first of the day. Hard as it may be, all we can do is try!
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 7:58 PM
i disagree. cingular's customer care was terrible before the merger, and att wireless' was even worse. i belive that in order to be successful they need to hire more customer service agents who are better then they have now. remember customer service is what attracts the customer to the carrier.
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 8:01 PM
yeah, I agree with you nextel. let me tell you a little story about what happened to me one day, this happened in a store. I was in the store buying an accessory for my phone (a leather case) and i wanted to check out, i asked a rep if he could ring me up and he said he was busy helping another customer activate a line, and i asked him if its ok if he just rings me up really fast, that i just needed this case, he said that i had to sign in like everyone else. There was at least a 1.5 hour wait, there were many many customers in the store, i waited 45 mintues for case before i put it back and left. i went to tmobile to buy the same case and waited 30 seconds.
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 8:06 PM
"i asked a rep if he could ring me up and he said he was busy helping another customer activate a line, and i asked him if its ok if he just rings me up really fast, that i just needed this case, he said that i had to sign in like everyone else."

really? wow. good sales team too.

i mean the store did have high demand but there should be more sales people as well as better trained one.

"went to tmobile to buy the same case and waited 30 seconds."

thats what its supposed to be.

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see thats what happens when you have bad customer service, bad billing department, and bad sales team. your churn will go up and same with your complaints.

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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 8:08 PM
i agree with you on that one, cingular needs to start improving now. everyone says give it time, but in the end its hurting the customers that are with them NOW. like me lol... but again, i really like cingular and i would really like to stay with them...
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 8:11 PM
exactly. time? what time? there is no time. execs and people on here are saying wait till the merging of networks finishes. why? they both roamed on each other's network pre-merger right? now since they are a combined company the service should be better becuase they combine spectrum and towers. well, you can like cingular but if you cant use your phone and wasting your hard earned money, why stay? doesnt make sense to me.
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 8:13 PM
i'm going to give it a little bit of time. I love my phones and my media works. that works all the time, i never have a problem with that. i just feel that if i weigh it out until the end of the year, that maybe somethings will have improved. If, and i mean, IF i do decide to switch carriers, it wont be verizon, and it wont be nextel (no family plans) then my last option will be Tmobile.
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 8:16 PM
but if cingular/att wireless wont work well in your area, and since tmobile uses cingular's towers, how would that make tmobile better?

i think you should wait till nextel/sprint merge, not becuase i am biased, but it makes more sense. more functionality with nextel/sprint combined and there could be family plans. why would you need family plans? couldnt you just get shared plans?
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 8:19 PM
shared is the same thing as family plans right? but when will this merger be finalized?
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 8:21 PM
i belive shared is the same as family. if you have obviously 3 people you get 3 of those plans. if you want to give me your zip i will help ya just look for plans for you. again, always weigh your options.

nextel/sprint should be finilized by 2nd half of this year. i cant give the exact date but i belive maybe q3 or q4.
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CelluNerd

Apr 12, 2005, 8:23 PM
i see, we'll see what happens. i'll have to discuss this with my better half when the time comes.
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 8:43 PM
of course.

1. if cingular isnt good in your area chances are that tmobile wont.
2. when i had sprint back in the day it worked perfectly in LV, not sure about nextel though. i looked on the map and it looks pretty much all covered. in LV area, i am seeing about 120+ cell sites (of nextel's) so thus; coverage should not be a problem.
3. weigh your options, becuase you make hard earned money and you want to spend it where service is the best.
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Scotian

Apr 12, 2005, 8:03 PM
Well, to be honest I never call regarding an account so I can't say who is worst. I can say that I have had many customers complaining about the Cing cus service. I also get complaints about the ATT reps too. Customers saying that the cus service is much better since the merge. The kiccker is that they're talking to the same reps(ATT) before the merger...LOL
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 8:07 PM
very interesting. "The kiccker is that they're talking to the same reps(ATT) before the merger."

now thats funny.
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nextel18

Apr 12, 2005, 7:55 PM
well said.. but i disagree with this... "Better Network, True. The combination of Cingular and ATTWS GSM greatly improved the GSM coverage." it doesnt seem to be a better network, if it was people wouldnt be complaining about their service especially on here and by churn as well as by the complaint levels that the fcc released for the year. most of those complaints had to do with service anyway.

again, if this doesnt turn around with 2-3 years maybe a little bit longer, i am affraid that cingular/att wireless wont be number one. hsdpa might not be as successful as others are thinking.
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muchdrama

Apr 14, 2005, 4:06 PM
CelluNerd said:
When I first heard about the Cingular/ATTWS merger I was really interested in finding out more info about how this will affect customers. I was told by many reps that customers will benefit in many different ways. To name a few:
Better rate plans
More phones
Faster rollout of phones
Improved customer service
free mobile to mobile to 46million people
better network

so far, ive seen the mobile to mobile part... but im not sure about the rest. I was really positive about this merger, but lately, i've been re-thinking this whole thing. I really like having Cingular as my wireless carrier, don't get me wrong, its just where are these lower prices?? Rate plans have increased in price, there no better p
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