Wow look at these numbers.
VZW / Nextel 62.2 mil
VZW / Sprint 71 mil
VZW / Cing 94.7 mil

You get the idea. but NEXTEL18 can't. The merger isn't done so Sprint / Nextel isn't a carrier.

Straight off the Sprint site

"Sprint Reports 2005 Second Quarter Results
Record revenues and earnings
Quarterly Free Cash Flow* of more than $2.5 billion
Strong contributions from Wireless, Local and Long distance
Proposed Nextel merger planning in final stages"

Notice the words above "proposed and planning " NOT "merger in final stages".

Sprint / Nextel isn't a carrier.

I just had to stress that again, but I'm sure that in his world NEXTEL 18 will once again refuse to acknowledge this fact.

aloha said:
Notice the words above "proposed and planning " NOT "merger in final stages".

Sprint / Nextel isn't a carrier.

We all know that, but with next18 you must remember, he chooses to live in his own world when confronted with a fact he does not like. Bear that in mind. 😉

Thanks for the kind words, however, with your last statement is somewhat rude, but I guess you have a right to say that. With that said, loll, I always take days that I do not go on here because I have other things to do. If you do not want to see my posts, then please just do not click on my name or posts when I do decide to post. It is your prerogative to do so, so please do not complain, but thanks for the kind words.

I'm sorry if i came that way. It just seems that there is endless pessimism toward other carriers on your behalf, and with sprint/nextel there is the total opposite. Those two companies need the most improvement as do the top two. You facts are helpful, but mostly slanted in sprint/nextel favor which gets boring because we always know your arguments.

That isn’t true because if you look at all of my posts I always say about competitors and since Nextel//sprint are competitors I bring them into the picture too. However, when I commented on how verizon and cingular did on their quarters I explained how they didn’t do that well in arpu etc. Therefore, I didn’t really compare them to Nextel/sprint right then but as individual companies, but then after that I did because they are competitors and that is what I want to do. Most people are biased on here so if they are I will chose that excessively.

No problem. 🙂

What do you want them to say in the lawsuits? Oh yea we are 100 percent guilty. Loll ha-ha. They will buy their affiliates anyway then save billions integrating them and their synergies that they will get from the merger itself. We already had this conversation.

We didn't have this conversation. My lord your levels of delusion and denial are abhorrant.

Why don't you find the post where we discussed the fact that they love to quote numbers that include affiliate sales (to boost their perception in the public eye) but turn around in their SEC filings saying their affiliate's claims are without basis.

Whether they buy them or not and any potential cost savings is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that you brought it up to distract from my point shows you either agree or just don't understand.

I meant we already had this affiliate conversation a while ago that is what I was talk about. With that said, I think you have selective seeing because you don’t see the whole picture. Anyway, it’s a shame. Carriers include affiliates, wholesale business, core, as well as prepaid business to their numbers.

No carrier in the country relies on affiliate numbers to boost their quarterly net adds as Sprint does. Their % of affiliate sales compared to core sales is so far ahead of anyone in the industry. They take the credit when it helps and deny their benefit when it comes to SEC filings.

That is the big picture.

They don’t rely on their affiliates to boost their numbers I mean they add all of their subscribers that hit their network because it generates arpu. You are allowed to do that or else the SEC would make them change it. They add their wholesale business too because as explained above it adds revenue to their bottom line. That is what happens.

Affiliate numbers generate nothing to their bottom line and technically do not help their ARPU when it comes to shareholder value. If Alamosa ARPU is $55 and Sprint is $54 it makes no difference when paying a dividend.

It may be allowed but they still gain no real benefit other than perception. Nothing wrong with that but the SEC filing is hypocritical.

Actually, the affiliates do pay moneys (royalties) towards the daddy carrier and for example, when a sprint user goes on an affiliate’s network it records as roaming arpu and vice versa. Both go to the bottom line. As long as their sub growth on all businesses grows and their net income and revenue grows that is all what counts. After this merger, all the affiliates will be gobbled up anyway so in essence the subscribers are “owned” by the daddy carrier. That is how it goes.

You think 100k or whatever actually helps to add to their sub growth? Not at all, especially if their core and wholesale business are more then that number.

100K of 600K is 16%. Tell me which other carrier has even 5% of their net adds due to affiliate growth.

Nextel.

Nextel partner's averages 90,000 per quarter and Nextel got 763,000 this quarter. Therefore, you can do the math. 🙂

Regardless, affiliates do count to the bottom line because as I keep on saying it hits the network.

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Why do you keep posting off-topic nature in this forum? If you want to talk about an off-topic thing, which you are doing, you should make a new subject.

You start getting likeable and you say something like your "topic" statement.

It is on topic due to your post. You posted numbers that include affiliates and I made the point.

You really need to decide how you want to come across. Young and feisty or immature and childish. Nothing wrong with the first, but the second just gets old.

Getting likable? Wow!!! Such a big deal on a forum loll. It isn’t on topic what so ever. The top 3 carriers had to deal with their sub growth and total subscribers for the quarter then you start with what about the affiliates etc.. however, the original post had nothing to do with the affiliates, but I just mentioned that they would have 1.25 not including affiliates and 1.45 mill including affiliates. That didn’t mean to keep talking about the affiliates I wanted opinions on the situation with the top 3 carriers not on the affiliates.

I don’t have to decide anything because it doesn’t matter to me and if people want to take things off context be my guest because simply it doesn’t matter, but I would like if people who talk about off to...
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There we go, back to the ole' nextel18.

yea, another stupid post.

last word-itis?

word!

Regardless of what he says, this whole post is null and void. Sprint/Nextel isnt even a carrier YET. They have a long while to go with all their disgruntled affiliates before the deal closes. Even after it closes there will still be problems.

But regardless this is a Cingular forum and all Nextel18 likes to do is cause pissing contests so he can present facts and figures to make him look like hes top dog. So just ignore him. Its like beating a dead horse in the Kentucky Derby.

I have a thought, why don’t you just ignore me and bother someone else? (Since as you claim I am young and immature etc..)

The affiliate’s numbers sub growth per quarter is so miniscule that it doesn’t matter that much, however, they are allowed to add the total subscribers as well as the sub growth to the bottom line. (Because it does hit the network and generate revenue as I mentioned in my other post)

iloveMOTOV300 said:
how many customers does T-Mobile have? I know it's a silly question, but I am just curious that's all. :-)

T-Mobile USA (keep in mind that theyre in Europe as well) had 18.2 million customers at the end of 2004.

They havent announced Q2 results yet, but theyre probably at around 20 million customers right now.

thanks for the info. T-Mobile is smaller than the big carriers, but that's ok. smaller companies are better companies.

How immature. See its with posts like that that it makes one look stupid. Anyway, it was an error, it wasn’t a big deal and someone corrected me and when I got home from class, I noticed that and corrected it accordingly. Anyway, I did extremely well in math class.

IT WAS A JOKE MAN!

You lobbed it up there like a softball pitch for anyone to knock out of the park.

Don't be so sensitive. The joke was by no means demeaning. If you can't laugh at yourself and your own mistakes you won't get far in life.

When I have left myself open for a joke like that I fully expect (or am not suprised when)someone to jump the chance as well. I just laugh it off.

RELAX!

Like I told, the other person who I was talking to, that jokes and sarcasm are very difficult to decipher online.

I am very relaxed actually, thanks for caring. Anyway, with your posts that are either joking or not they are the same in nature. You bash me anyway, so who knows if you were joking or not.

I attack your facts, as you should expect when posting such bold statements.

I used to be unable to detect the difference when I was younger as well. Maybe one day you will do better. It is something you can only learn with age.

alright, if you say so.