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Huge network upgrade/expansion for Cingular!

Al_Swearengen

Aug 1, 2005, 11:32 PM
Wow.

http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_rele ... »

They are going to drop more than $6 billion on the network before the end of 2005. 😳

1 billion in California alone. They're adding 730 new cell sites in the state.

Other expansion include:
Indiana
Georgia
NY/NJ
Tennessee
Kentucky
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Philadelphia
Texas
North and South Carolina

Cingular is claiming they will have 40,000 cell sites by the end of 2005. 😳 Definately keeping the promise of the 'Allover Network'.

If I'm not mistaken, this is part of the GSM/EDGE expansion that they contracted Nokia to do. The articles specifically said GSM/EDGE so this doesn't even include the 15-20 cities that will have UMTS/HS by the end of 200...
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RUFF1415

Aug 2, 2005, 12:07 AM
They actually already have 45,000+ cell sites, but maybe that 40,000 is indicating the cell sites that will actually be integrated and dubbed "Allover".
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mysystemsareupdating

Aug 2, 2005, 1:27 AM
I am surprised at North Carolina, large chunk is divested to SUNCOM
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Hello Moto

Aug 2, 2005, 8:22 AM
Actually, only the former ATT was divested... They did not give up their own network there. They still have all of their towers and customers there that they have had.
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JMSA12

Aug 2, 2005, 8:06 PM
whats a "cell site", a tower?
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Al_Swearengen

Aug 2, 2005, 8:32 PM
JMSA12 said:
whats a "cell site", a tower?


Cell Site:
The location at which communications equipment is located for each cell. A cell site includes antennas, a support structure for those antennas, and communications equipment to connect the site to the rest of the wireless system.
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AshDizzle

Aug 9, 2005, 6:28 PM
Yep. A "tower" can hold multiple cell sites. Verizon and Cingular could technically be on the same tower. They usually aren't, though.
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jerrydock

Aug 8, 2005, 2:43 PM
mysystemsareupdating wrote:

I am surprised at North Carolina, large chunk is divested to SUNCOM

NOT TRUE.

Cingular in NC already had coverage in all of NC. They swapped the old AT&T market to SunCom for SunCom's Virginia market. This gave SunCom coverage in all of NC; whereas before SunCom piggy backed on AT&T to cover the state.

It was a good deal for SunCom and a better deal for Cingular.
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Al_Swearengen

Aug 2, 2005, 5:03 PM
RUFF1415 said:
They actually already have 45,000+ cell sites, but maybe that 40,000 is indicating the cell sites that will actually be integrated and dubbed "Allover".


If you look at the articles in the newsroom, they are going to add around 1500-2000 cell sites by the end of 2005. One of the articles said they would have more than 40,000 by the end of 2005 and more than 45,000 by the end of 2006. I think Cingular has that many cell sites now, but not entirely GSM. Not only that, I'm sure they had to divest a few thousand during the merger. So, yeah I think we are both right here.
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iloveMOTOV300

Aug 2, 2005, 5:28 PM
Yay! I am glad that they are expanding in Indiana!!! Good news for my family who uses Cingular!
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JMSA12

Aug 2, 2005, 8:36 PM
Any information about expanding, upgrading, updating, Cingular for FAYETTEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA? My zip code is 28305, my coverage kind of sucks, where I live....THANKS!

~Jon
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devious1

Aug 4, 2005, 3:57 PM
any info on wisconsin at zip 54220 or where i could find out
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BlueHFX

Aug 6, 2005, 5:28 PM
no intergation there i saw not even sure if cingular has coverage there. the old attws has pretty spotty coverage there from tha zip you put in.
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JMSA12

Aug 7, 2005, 11:23 AM
which zip?
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BlueHFX

Aug 7, 2005, 11:29 AM
That was the Wisconsin zip. On your zip the Former attws side has been divested. So there will be no network integration in your area sorry to tell you. If I remember right your zip was in NC correct? I posted the other day for you. Cingular may expand eventually I assume they always are for GSM. Right now they have a lot of network integration going on but they are supposed to putting up more network as well. Just where I would not have that info and it is not generally provided to us.
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JMSA12

Aug 7, 2005, 6:37 PM
hey, thanks , bluehfx 🙂
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BlueHFX

Aug 8, 2005, 7:19 PM
JMSA12 said:
hey, thanks , bluehfx 🙂



Hey np anytime. But at least Cingular is still there and they most likely will expand.
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jerrydock

Aug 9, 2005, 12:04 PM
"Think posted on your zip i forget what was it? much of NC the former attws side is divested so the only coverage is from cingular itself. any network integration may not help and in a divested market it will not help. sorry"""

Not true. Cingular towers are still in a lot of NC. The old AT&T towers were taken over by SunCom. Add the existing SunCom towers, which were changed to GSM in June 04; plus, add in the NEW GSM towers put up by both SunCom and Cingular and you are beginning to see very good service in NC. I even got coverage in Mt. Airy...phone said SunCom. I used to run out of AT&T service just 20 miles North of Winston Salem...GSM service is really kicking now.
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BlueHFX

Aug 12, 2005, 8:10 AM
jerrydock said:
"Not true. Cingular towers are still in a lot of NC. The old AT&T towers were taken over by SunCom. Add the existing SunCom towers, which were changed to GSM in June 04; plus, add in the NEW GSM towers put up by both SunCom and Cingular and you are beginning to see very good service in NC. I even got coverage in Mt. Airy...phone said SunCom. I used to run out of AT&T service just 20 miles North of Winston Salem...GSM service is really kicking now.



This was about network integration since the attws side is divested it will not be integrated like the rest of the country. I checked the zips there is little towers in the area I am not saying the signal is horrible just less towers. Howev...
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devious1

Aug 8, 2005, 1:07 PM
Thanks Bluehfx i noticed that the coverage is extremely spotty in my area which really sucks.
but the worst part is that my store is going to be selling cingular come 1/1/06 so i am hoping that they drop a few towers around this zip code on my trip last night there was a 30-35 mile stretch where there was no signal at all let alone in both towns i visited last night there was nothing so i am really hoping they do something in this area.

is there a way to get someone to come out and check the signals or is that a slim to none long shot? or are they just going to go by what attws had said there was coverage..
thanks again Bluehfx
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BlueHFX

Aug 8, 2005, 7:23 PM
devious1 said:
Thanks Bluehfx i noticed that the coverage is extremely spotty in my area which really sucks.
but the worst part is that my store is going to be selling cingular come 1/1/06 so i am hoping that they drop a few towers around this zip code on my trip last night there was a 30-35 mile stretch where there was no signal at all let alone in both towns i visited last night there was nothing so i am really hoping they do something in this area.

is there a way to get someone to come out and check the signals or is that a slim to none long shot? or are they just going to go by what attws had said there was coverage..
thanks again Bluehfx



np, Best think is to call care and file a coverage feed ...
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devious1

Aug 10, 2005, 12:06 AM
cool i appreciate it now i just have to send a letter to someone or an email to see if i can get some one to talk on the situation cause my store will be selling cingular on the first of the year so that would be cool if they could at least look into it
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jerrydock

Aug 8, 2005, 2:47 PM
Any information about expanding, upgrading, updating, Cingular for FAYETTEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA? My zip code is 28305, my coverage kind of sucks, where I live....THANKS!

~Jon

Jon,
I have SunCom and Fayetteville has good GSM coverage...switch to a Nokia phone.
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JMSA12

Aug 8, 2005, 5:14 PM
what about Haymont area?
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BlueHFX

Aug 9, 2005, 11:46 AM
JMSA12 said:
what about Haymont area?



Think posted on your zip i forget what was it? much of NC the former attws side is divested so the only coverage is from cingular itself. any network integration may not help and in a divested market it will not help. sorry.
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JMSA12

Aug 9, 2005, 4:52 PM
you saiod you forgot the zip, so here you go...thanks everyone! 🙂
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JMSA12

Aug 9, 2005, 6:59 PM
28305 Haymont area
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BlueHFX

Aug 9, 2005, 7:19 PM
JMSA12 said:
28305 Haymont area



Yep that is divested I remember that zip, sorry man.
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JMSA12

Aug 11, 2005, 9:44 PM
its okay, hey thanks
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BlueHFX

Aug 9, 2005, 11:45 AM
jerrydock said:
Any information about expanding, upgrading, updating, Cingular for FAYETTEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA? My zip code is 28305, my coverage kind of sucks, where I live....THANKS!

~Jon

Jon,
I have SunCom and Fayetteville has good GSM coverage...switch to a Nokia phone.



Yeah attws is divested there and there is not a lot of cingular there sorry. maybe in expansion but integration will not help you sorry.
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motohello

Aug 11, 2005, 2:44 PM
Hey, any idea what cities Cingular will turn 3G UMTS/HSDPA on in initially? I'm in NYC, and am wondering if it'll test here. Also, is there any way to volunteer as a tester for when they do turn it on?

Thanks in advance . .
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BlueHFX

Aug 12, 2005, 5:09 AM
motohello said:
Hey, any idea what cities Cingular will turn 3G UMTS/HSDPA on in initially? I'm in NYC, and am wondering if it'll test here. Also, is there any way to volunteer as a tester for when they do turn it on?

Thanks in advance . .



Sorry really have no clue if they launch it. you need to buy am umts device.
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motohello

Aug 12, 2005, 7:47 AM
I'm Ok with buying the device. I've already got one in mind, just have no idea what frequency they'll use, etc. Thanks for the response...
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BlueHFX

Aug 12, 2005, 8:06 AM
Np sorry could not help all I know is it is supposed to available in 6 test cities. I do not think NY was one unfortunately. It could be wrong but when I was in attws care it was not on the list.
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