ATT employee paycuts due to Cingular .
zoomzoom said:
I just wanted some feed back from other "Former" blue employees as to how they feel about the 7 to 10000 dollar a year pay cut they recieved as a thank you to joining the "orange " family
Are you really trying that hard to piss people off???? Quit trying to start a flame war and go away.
P.S Whats a flame war 😁
"Oh I don't mind it"
Please. People who did not think it was fair quit or will. People who can handle it will stay.
What is your point?
zoomzoom said:
You must not have worked for ATT. If you would have you would feel differently
They must have fed you guys at AT&T some really good crack when you were working for them. I know that, with me, it wouldn't matter what company I was working for, if you talked to me about a pay cut, I would be pissed off beyond belief.
zoomzoom said:
Thats what im saying we are actually going to take a 7 to 10000 dollar a year pay cut. Its absolutely insane
Ok, and now we are back to the original post. You post this in a public forum and expect a reaction from people other than being pissed???? Get off of the pipe..... 😈
zoomzoom said:
Your names not Robert is it
No, it's not....but I do know a Robert, why do you ask?
You sound like upper management or a bottom feeder who would backstab your best friend.
CINGULAR is out of control and nothing is wrong with letting everybody know this.
This is why cingular cannot get good report cards. Unhappy employees = unhappy representatives.
cnglrmgr said:
What is your problem defending CINGULAR. He is not making cingulr reps mad. He is speaking truth.
You sound like upper management or a bottom feeder who would backstab your best friend.
CINGULAR is out of control and nothing is wrong with letting everybody know this.
This is why cingular cannot get good report cards. Unhappy employees = unhappy representatives.
I don't work in the wireless industry at all, moron.
If you are so damn unhappy with Cingular, why the hell don't you further yourself by going to work for another carrier? Oh, wait, you must not be good enough for another carrier. So shut your mouth.
If that is the case, I am happy for you that you are not being affected.
CINGULAR is really doing a bad # for employees overall.
cnglrmgr said:
He cannot piss us off when he is speaking the truth. Sounds like you work for CINGULAR & you are upper management.
If that is the case, I am happy for you that you are not being affected.
CINGULAR is really doing a bad # for employees overall.
I don't work for wireless at all....idiot....
I am a manager & I just cannot believe how cingular is treating us. Especially regular reps. Wages are an insult.
cnglrmgr said:
I understand what you say. It's the truth. You are not making me mad. You are being honest.
I am a manager & I just cannot believe how cingular is treating us. Especially regular reps. Wages are an insult.
Then get a new job. You have got to be the most disgruntled employee I have ever seen. And yet you still stay there. Must be something keeping you there.
In other posts I see you slamming everything people have to say, and I just came across one where you replied to someone: "I'm not in wireless at all....idiot."
1. Why are you spending so much of your time in a wireless forum? Loser.
2. You couldnt possibly understand whats happening to us if your not an employee....especially a Blue one.
People are staying bc of time with the company, in hopes the pay will get better. It is a Fortune 500 company and the record setter for the largest merger of its kind in history. We get amazing benefits and work for a company with a great name. We're hanging on....call it loyalty, but if you dont understand it then get out of this forum. Idiot.
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Hey SForsyth01,
In other posts I see you slamming everything people have to say, and I just came across one where you replied to someone: "I'm not in wireless at all....idiot."
1. Why are you spending so much of your time in a wireless forum? Loser.
2. You couldnt possibly understand whats happening to us if your not an employee....especially a Blue one.
People are staying bc of time with the company, in hopes the pay will get better. It is a Fortune 500 company and the record setter for the largest merger of its kind in history. We get amazing benefits and work for a company with a great name. We're hanging on....call it loyalty, but if you dont understand it then get out of this foru
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Managers are able to deal with it since their pay is considerably good compared to what they would be making in other jobs.
Cingular has proven that it is out to look for itself & screw the customers. If by screwing the customers is not enough, they are screwing the employees.
Upper management on the other hand, they are happy with what they are doing since it means more & more $$ as raises are available for them & monthly bonuses are through the roof.
If you are in sales, just do it. Phantom churn is what you need to consider. Customer care reps are cornered & cannot do anything about it anyways. Do it while you can & get paid. About 90% of the time, reps are going to resolve t...
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As you can imagine, costs of living is going up while raises are an insult.
We are being demanded more & more every time with more multi-tasking, more work, more stress & no $$.
Average raise for employees in my call center was 2.5%. That was a big *pluck* you & have a nice day.
Cingular is paying ****ty wages to the 3rd party vendors. Regular blue employees are being made more & more uncomfortable every day that passes by. I am a manager & I cannot believe what CINGULAR is doing.
New representatives coming in are being hired at about $4.00 less than what it was 4 yrs ago to start.
This is just the beginning.
Blue legacy representatives are being demanded same as regu...
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Many of us are looking for other jobs now.
cnglrmgr said:...
Paycuts for BLUE employees has already happened.
As you can imagine, costs of living is going up while raises are an insult.
We are being demanded more & more every time with more multi-tasking, more work, more stress & no $$.
Average raise for employees in my call center was 2.5%. That was a big *pluck* you & have a nice day.
Cingular is paying ****ty wages to the 3rd party vendors. Regular blue employees are being made more & more uncomfortable every day that passes by. I am a manager & I cannot believe what CINGULAR is doing.
New representatives coming in are being hired at about $4.00 less than what it was 4 yrs ago to start.
This is just the beginning.
Blue legacy representati
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SForsyth01 said:...cnglrmgr said:
Paycuts for BLUE employees has already happened.
As you can imagine, costs of living is going up while raises are an insult.
We are being demanded more & more every time with more multi-tasking, more work, more stress & no $$.
Average raise for employees in my call center was 2.5%. That was a big *pluck* you & have a nice day.
Cingular is paying ****ty wages to the 3rd party vendors. Regular blue employees are being made more & more uncomfortable every day that passes by. I am a manager & I cannot believe what CINGULAR is doing.
New representatives coming in are being hired at about $4.00 less than what it was 4 yrs ago to start.
This is just the b
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cnglrmgr said:...SForsyth01 said:cnglrmgr said:
Paycuts for BLUE employees has already happened.
As you can imagine, costs of living is going up while raises are an insult.
We are being demanded more & more every time with more multi-tasking, more work, more stress & no $$.
Average raise for employees in my call center was 2.5%. That was a big *pluck* you & have a nice day.
Cingular is paying ****ty wages to the 3rd party vendors. Regular blue employees are being made more & more uncomfortable every day that passes by. I am a manager & I cannot believe what CINGULAR is doing.
New representatives coming in are being hired at about $4.00 less than what it was 4 yrs
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Truth is truth guy!
cnglrmgr said:
Truth is truth guy!
I completely agree with that statement, but if you are as dedicated to your job and making your Company better as you say you are, then you should want to exhibit that dedication to prospective customers in order to attract them. Find the bright spot in all the gloom. That is what a truly dedicated employee does. And especially a truly dedicated manager.
Your attitude shows that you are the exact opposite of what you claim to be.
I think it's appalling what Cingular is doing, and without a kiss or KY at that. It's going to come back on them, and I'll be cheering when it does. "...
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Average profit per unit sold is between $100 - $150. Good reps can bump that up to around $200. If you sell 100 phones a month you've made your company 20,000. If you expect to bring home $4,000 a month from that then you're nuts. That's 20% of your revenue, and a sales rep usually isn't worth that much. If someone feels that they should make more than that, they should go for a m...
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Im a former blue sales rep that has always been with the top performers each month, every month (60-70 acts continuous). I have gone from making 3500-4000 a month to 1500-2000, sometimes less bc of these damn tiers after deacts.
I have watched more high quality, educated, long time reps leave in droves since the merger, just to be replaced by reps far less experienced and much lower quality than before. I've never seen anything like it in my years in sales with the company (even after the spin-off, Siebel, LNP issues, etc).
Corporate skates around the issue every time. People are truly on track o...
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On the Orange side of things my income has increased with these new sales tiers. I don't think it's unfair for someone to make the same as I do for the same amount of work. Just because they came from another company in a buy out doesn't entitle them to special treatment.
It's bad enough that cingular is making all attws employees follow t's & c's of cingular but not pay us the $$
I am an orange manager, so maybe my view is different, but I still stick to my opinion. On the other hand, I can understand it's not fun to have a huge pay cut like that...
There are problems within every company. If the upper management doesn't want to take some sort of pay cut to help put more money in the wage pool then they aren't "Company" men and the board members need to look at that or ...
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To answer one of your quest...
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