What is wrong with Cingular's networks?
The writer that began the thread https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=4&fi=432619 ...which is about when is it the best time to switch to Cingular...got an answer from one person that had in it that Sigman had said that their networks are all screwed up.
What is the problem, exactly?
I would guess that the ATT shutdown has shown they don't possess the network to handle 50+ million people. Also, maybe when tdma+amps formed the majority of their coverage, that amps effectively hid digital coverage holes that the gsm-only coverage can't as yet?
I'm not starting a flame-thread here. As someone having coverage with the company, I'm just interested in knowing the details of what my experiences have shown is truly a b...
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What is the problem, exactly?
I would guess that the ATT shutdown has shown they don't possess the network to handle 50+ million people. Also, maybe when tdma+amps formed the majority of their coverage, that amps effectively hid digital coverage holes that the gsm-only coverage can't as yet?
I'm not starting a flame-thread here. As someone having coverage with the company, I'm just interested in knowing the details of what my experiences have shown is truly a b...
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Well john, i live in a hugh AT&T coverage area, and i have cingular and there has been no problems at all. Alot of people come in here and flame Cingular for many reasons the biggest is all the redneck VZW fans hateing the future and the GSM network. I have never had a problem and to be honest cingular has way better coverage then VZW where i live. So make your options it's all about what works the best for you!!
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I have had friends who were in areas that had more ATT coverage than Cingular (talking W Kentucky/SE Missouri) and they've been suffering since the network integration began.
My mom has one of cingular's old tdma nation plans and plans to keep it till cingular cuts the cord. She has noticed in her hometown that several places that always used to read "Cingular" on her phone now read "Cingular Extend"...meaning she is likely surfing off of VZW towers (I'm guessing) since we were told that integration has taken place in her area (63701 zip).
They could definitely use more towers in rural areas, I know from my own travels that is true.
My mom has one of cingular's old tdma nation plans and plans to keep it till cingular cuts the cord. She has noticed in her hometown that several places that always used to read "Cingular" on her phone now read "Cingular Extend"...meaning she is likely surfing off of VZW towers (I'm guessing) since we were told that integration has taken place in her area (63701 zip).
They could definitely use more towers in rural areas, I know from my own travels that is true.
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John,
In a few years, when analog goes away...you will see all the carriers have issues, including Verizon.
Verizon has gaps in their coverage, just like Cingular and Sprint and T-Mo.
Much of the issues are exaggerated and unfortunately, most of the grumbling comes from fmr ATT customers (I am one also) that literally want the similar rate plans and programs and phone prices that they had under ATT.
It will take time to integrate the two networks, upgrade towers to HSPDA and UMTS for data plans, initiate NEW towers into rural and unexplored areas, continue to roll out new products (phones, data products, promotions, etc...) and update their CSR image (which is more rumor and conjecture than reality).
When Verizon was formed back when...
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In a few years, when analog goes away...you will see all the carriers have issues, including Verizon.
Verizon has gaps in their coverage, just like Cingular and Sprint and T-Mo.
Much of the issues are exaggerated and unfortunately, most of the grumbling comes from fmr ATT customers (I am one also) that literally want the similar rate plans and programs and phone prices that they had under ATT.
It will take time to integrate the two networks, upgrade towers to HSPDA and UMTS for data plans, initiate NEW towers into rural and unexplored areas, continue to roll out new products (phones, data products, promotions, etc...) and update their CSR image (which is more rumor and conjecture than reality).
When Verizon was formed back when...
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Great post!
In the end it is about product development. If Verizon, Cingular, Sprint and maybe even T-Mobile one day go back and forth between #1 it is good for consumers and that is the bottom line.
Cingular bought ATTWS for the future, not just to say they are suddenly number one. The internal plans HAVE NEVER BEEN to get where we are now and be content. To those who truly are educated it was a purchase about future development, not 1-2 years of chest thumping.
In the end it is about product development. If Verizon, Cingular, Sprint and maybe even T-Mobile one day go back and forth between #1 it is good for consumers and that is the bottom line.
Cingular bought ATTWS for the future, not just to say they are suddenly number one. The internal plans HAVE NEVER BEEN to get where we are now and be content. To those who truly are educated it was a purchase about future development, not 1-2 years of chest thumping.
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Cingular does not have roaming agreements with Verizon. An older TDMA handset can read "Extend" whenever it is outside it's programmed SID area.
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I know that it's all about the native network now when talking GSM. But, back when TDMA was the only game in town, didn't Cingular have those roaming agreements with various local and nat'l carriers...and wouldn't those old set-ups still be in effect for those customers?
How can you, out of curiousity's sake, find out who's towers you are humping when getting "extend" on a tdma phone? My mom has hit me with that question before and I have no idea.
How can you, out of curiousity's sake, find out who's towers you are humping when getting "extend" on a tdma phone? My mom has hit me with that question before and I have no idea.
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If the phone has a network scan feature you could see the SID. Then you have to discover whose SID you are using.
Cingular has many agreements, but none with Verizon.
Cingular has many agreements, but none with Verizon.
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Cingular is TDMA in that area and VZW is CDMA nation wide, cingular can not use there towers. If you are in cingular ext. your eather on a AT&T tower or a local TDMA companys tower (local to that area). I have GSM and for thoes areas going from TDMA to gsm ya it's going to be tough but it will get better VZW did not (Buy 🤣 ) the coverage they have just overnight. So in my area Southern washington state I have had no issues, if anything, it has got better, so it works for me. But like before what works for me might not be the same thing that works for you, so go off what you like not what the rest of the forum likes.
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Why o why can't u higher the bilingual pay differential by 5 dollars ? we work 5 times as hard as everyone else 😛
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