Yes folks, the RAZR is outdated.
At work, I'm always a little entertained by customer's that come in and drool over the RAZR like it's the latest and greatest phone to have possession of. Do people not realize how long that phone has been around? In "cell-phone-years" 2 years is a long time. In fact, the RAZR is THE oldest phone in our store. Every other phone we sell is newer than that one. Yes folks, even those ugly, chunky, open-faced Nokia phones you see on the "cheap-and-or-free" wall of the store are NEWER than that shiny flat one you think you'd look so awesome carrying! Sure, they've changed the color, but it's still a pretty old phone, all things considering. Not to mention everyone seems to have it now. But even more amusing to me is that now all of these other ca...
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you know i think the same thing. when you got hippy's and people that dont know to much about cell phones comming in for one then its definately lost its luster.
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but you know what, it took me this long to finally find a phone that was a good replacement in all categories - the HTC 2125. I love this thing, and it's thin enough that if i put it in my pocket it's not bulging out. not to mention every other feature it has! 😎
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jinx7676 said:
but you know what, it took me this long to finally find a phone that was a good replacement in all categories - the HTC 2125. I love this thing, and it's thin enough that if i put it in my pocket it's not bulging out. not to mention every other feature it has! 😎
Some people find "value" in exclusivity. Being the ONLY one with something. Those people need approval so much from other they are willing to pay a premium to achieve that goal. When anoyone can have what they have used to gain approval the "luster" wears off and they have to find another status symbol to get that approval and exclusivity they so much need from others.
If the Razr does what its supposed to do for one then its not...
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TenMidgits said:
Some people find "value" in exclusivity. Being the ONLY one with something. Those people need approval so much from other they are willing to pay a premium to achieve that goal. When anoyone can have what they have used to gain approval the "luster" wears off and they have to find another status symbol to get that approval and exclusivity they so much need from others.
A few years ago you could have said the same exact thing about *anyone* who flashed a cellphone. At one time having a cellphone was a big status symbol. Now anyone including not so affluent kids have them.
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littlefuzzbear said:TenMidgits said:
Some people find "value" in exclusivity. Being the ONLY one with something. Those people need approval so much from other they are willing to pay a premium to achieve that goal. When anoyone can have what they have used to gain approval the "luster" wears off and they have to find another status symbol to get that approval and exclusivity they so much need from others.
A few years ago you could have said the same exact thing about *anyone* who flashed a cellphone. At one time having a cellphone was a big status symbol. Now anyone including not so affluent kids have them.
So those in need of approval are finding it frustrating and d...
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TenMidgits said:flashing Verizon service is a start though.
And how do you "flash" VeriZon service? A phone used with Sprint or Alltel is the same type of phone used as is used on VeriZon. If you have to flash *anything* you are truly insecure.
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littlefuzzbear said:TenMidgits said:flashing Verizon service is a start though.
And how do you "flash" VeriZon service? A phone used with Sprint or Alltel is the same type of phone used as is used on VeriZon. If you have to flash *anything* you are truly insecure.
My point exactly...
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At work, I'm always a little entertained by customer's that come in and drool over the RAZR like it's the latest and greatest phone to have possession of. Do people not realize how long that phone has been around? In "cell-phone-years" 2 years is a long time. In fact, the RAZR is THE oldest phone in our store. Every other phone we sell is newer than that one. Yes folks, even those ugly, chunky, open-faced Nokia phones you see on the "cheap-and-or-free" wall of the store are NEWER than that shiny flat one you think you'd look so awesome carrying! Sure, they've changed the color, but it's still a pretty old phone, all things considering. Not to mention everyone seems to have it now. But even more amusing to
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Even as outdated as it is, it's still a great phone. Motorola really nailed it with the design and quality of this phone. We're still selling them fairly well.
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I kinda disagree with you there. I think the RAZR & phones that look almost exactly like it are going to be very popular for a long time to come. 'Outdated' doesn't apply to a product anymore when it achieves a certain 'classic' or iconic status.
Look at the iPod... its been around for years, a lot longer than the RAZR, in fact. Yet it still sells through the roof, and its still the hippest player to have. Yet almost no one calls it 'outdated'.
Why? Well, cynical peeps will say its 'cus of Apple's marketing, tho' I don't buy that- shadow people dancin' around with white headphones only goes so far.
I think its 'cus somehow, the iPod just NAILS it... it looks RIGHT, like you really couldn't improve the design/shape/form factor much...
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Look at the iPod... its been around for years, a lot longer than the RAZR, in fact. Yet it still sells through the roof, and its still the hippest player to have. Yet almost no one calls it 'outdated'.
Why? Well, cynical peeps will say its 'cus of Apple's marketing, tho' I don't buy that- shadow people dancin' around with white headphones only goes so far.
I think its 'cus somehow, the iPod just NAILS it... it looks RIGHT, like you really couldn't improve the design/shape/form factor much...
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I kinda disagree with you there. I think the RAZR & phones that look almost exactly like it are going to be very popular for a long time to come. 'Outdated' doesn't apply to a product anymore when it achieves a certain 'classic' or iconic status.
Look at the iPod... its been around for years, a lot longer than the RAZR, in fact. Yet it still sells through the roof, and its still the hippest player to have. Yet almost no one calls it 'outdated'.
Why? Well, cynical peeps will say its 'cus of Apple's marketing, tho' I don't buy that- shadow people dancin' around with white headphones only goes so far.
I think its 'cus somehow, the iPod just NAILS it... it looks RIGHT, like you really couldn't imp
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But how many newer, more advanced versions of the I-POD have been released?
Once the newer RAZR handsets are released with scheduled improvements like iRadio, memory cards, megapixel camera then you might compare them to the I-POD. If the 2nd version of the I-POD were the only thing they sold instead of the 7th or 8th (not sure how many new versions have been released with improvements) they wouldn't do as well.
Once the newer RAZR handsets are released with scheduled improvements like iRadio, memory cards, megapixel camera then you might compare them to the I-POD. If the 2nd version of the I-POD were the only thing they sold instead of the 7th or 8th (not sure how many new versions have been released with improvements) they wouldn't do as well.
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System and texas, you both seemed to express more what I intended to when I wrote the first post. It's not that the RAZR isn't a brilliant handset (in fact, it's what I myself carry..) it's more or less that the people who come in to buy it now aren't buying it for that reason. We even have gophone customers purchasing this phone, as if they're going to "look" extra special carrying it.
Texas, you also hit the nail on the head. The Ipod is constantly evolving to keep up with it's demand. That's how most products in any industry work...they need improvement from time to time. Aside from adding a couple cute colors and a video feature, the RAZR seems to be at a standstill. The RAZR doesn't even support EDGE yet, and that's part of why I do...
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Texas, you also hit the nail on the head. The Ipod is constantly evolving to keep up with it's demand. That's how most products in any industry work...they need improvement from time to time. Aside from adding a couple cute colors and a video feature, the RAZR seems to be at a standstill. The RAZR doesn't even support EDGE yet, and that's part of why I do...
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its allure is the fact its affordable. everyone that watched this phone through a window and didn't know that is nothing more than a press rolled v551 went out and got it when the price dropped. the next one that sell for you tell that customer to come back in two weeks and tell you what they like about it, why they like it, and what makes it different from other phones.
all the question will have the same answer: BECAUSE ITS THIN. trust me. if everyone knew it had no severly special talents or if it didn't drop in november of 2004 with a $400.00 price tag it would just be any other phone with a camera.
but the styling is nice so that attracts alot.
all the question will have the same answer: BECAUSE ITS THIN. trust me. if everyone knew it had no severly special talents or if it didn't drop in november of 2004 with a $400.00 price tag it would just be any other phone with a camera.
but the styling is nice so that attracts alot.
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You are right in that the iPod has evolved in terms of storage capacity, getting thinner, adding video, etc.
But in terms of look and feel, and form factor/design in general, it hasn't changed much from maybe the 3rd gen one.
The RAZR will feature up, but it won't change its design/form factor much either.
But in terms of look and feel, and form factor/design in general, it hasn't changed much from maybe the 3rd gen one.
The RAZR will feature up, but it won't change its design/form factor much either.
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texaswireless said:
But how many newer, more advanced versions of the I-POD have been released?
Once the newer RAZR handsets are released with scheduled improvements like iRadio, memory cards, megapixel camera then you might compare them to the I-POD. If the 2nd version of the I-POD were the only thing they sold instead of the 7th or 8th (not sure how many new versions have been released with improvements) they wouldn't do as well.
Tex, I think what System is getting at is that, even though they are on the 5th Generation Ipod, it is still very popular due to it's form factor.
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SForsyth01 said:
Tex, I think what System is getting at is that, even though they are on the 5th Generation Ipod, it is still very popular due to it's form factor.
Yep.
And its jus' amazing to me that no one else, even after all these years, has been able to come out with an mp3 player that nails the form factor/design (and ease of use) the way the iPod does. 😳
I mean, its not like Sony and Samsung and the rest are small companies, right?
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SystemShock said:SForsyth01 said:
Tex, I think what System is getting at is that, even though they are on the 5th Generation Ipod, it is still very popular due to it's form factor.
Yep.
And its jus' amazing to me that no one else, even after all these years, has been able to come out with an mp3 player that nails the form factor/design (and ease of use) the way the iPod does. 😳
I mean, its not like Sony and Samsung and the rest are small companies, right?
Look back at the beginning of the computer itself though. How long did apple have a corner on that market before someone finally did something to beat them? It was a long time and it took a cooperative effort of...
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SForsyth01 said:
Look back at the beginning of the computer itself though. How long did apple have a corner on that market before someone finally did something to beat them? It was a long time and it took a cooperative effort of Microsoft and IBM to do it. Apple is always ahead of the game at the beginning of things. And they normally stay there for a good while.
True dat. For example, a lotta peeps would say that OS X is still better than Win XP in a lot of areas (like look/feel, ease of use, and security), and Microsoft has been tryin' to catch up to Apple in OSes for like 20+ years now.
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SystemShock said:SForsyth01 said:
Look back at the beginning of the computer itself though. How long did apple have a corner on that market before someone finally did something to beat them? It was a long time and it took a cooperative effort of Microsoft and IBM to do it. Apple is always ahead of the game at the beginning of things. And they normally stay there for a good while.
True dat. For example, a lotta peeps would say that OS X is still better than Win XP in a lot of areas (like look/feel, ease of use, and security), and Microsoft has been tryin' to catch up to Apple in OSes for like 20+ years now.
I would be one of those people that say OS-X is better than Wind...
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SForsyth01 said:...SystemShock said:SForsyth01 said:
Look back at the beginning of the computer itself though. How long did apple have a corner on that market before someone finally did something to beat them? It was a long time and it took a cooperative effort of Microsoft and IBM to do it. Apple is always ahead of the game at the beginning of things. And they normally stay there for a good while.
True dat. For example, a lotta peeps would say that OS X is still better than Win XP in a lot of areas (like look/feel, ease of use, and security), and Microsoft has been tryin' to catch up to Apple in OSes for like 20+ years now.
I would be one of those peo
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My Razr V3c isn't outdated ... and I had the V3, 3 times total ....
It is a classy looking phone that preforms all of its tasks better than the rest.
V3c:
1.3 MegaPixel Camera
EV-DO internet and video casting (Vcast)
mp3 player
hardly outdated
It is a classy looking phone that preforms all of its tasks better than the rest.
V3c:
1.3 MegaPixel Camera
EV-DO internet and video casting (Vcast)
mp3 player
hardly outdated
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Cingular forum, Cingular RAZR being discussed.
But I am sure you knew that didn't you.
But I am sure you knew that didn't you.
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lol, texas...
It was about time Verizon got themselves a RAZR, eh? Golly, they're behind.. heh. I'm a cingular rep, but I think Sprint's Blade was a much smarter move then Verizon putting out the same phone that Cingular's had for years.
It was about time Verizon got themselves a RAZR, eh? Golly, they're behind.. heh. I'm a cingular rep, but I think Sprint's Blade was a much smarter move then Verizon putting out the same phone that Cingular's had for years.
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I've had countless customers come in to say the blade sucks. Never had a personal experience with us, just customer feedback. Seems the local Sprint stores do not carry accessories for that handset but RAZR cases see to fit ok (pouch style).
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