T-mobile basically has equivelant coverage to Cingular. If the last time you compared coverage maps was the around the same time you were packing around a Audiovox CDM-8150X, its about time to try again.
I know this may be difficult, considering Cingular's "future" coverage is similar in color to their current coverage, not to mention the intentionally small coverage map which blends the two together, appearing to cover the whole nation.
T-mobile also provides their customers with a personal coverage check which acctually allows the customer to see how the coverage will work for them instead of being blinded by a sea of orange.
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1st off you're an idiot. this is a forum to discuss questions not just for you to advertise whatever carrier you work for. Second, Cingular can do a coverage check by looking to see if you fit into the orange coverage or not. Third, with rollover, the rate plans aren't that far apart. I will admit that I have been extremely unsatisfied with the customer service I have received but, the coverage hasn't been that bad. It's way better than the cricket coverage I used to have.
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First and foremost, I don't work for T-mobile, Im just a satisfied customer and you don't need to be rude just because of your poor taste in wireless carriers.
Second rollover is a joke. What a marketing scam, lets break this down. Cingular charges way to much for the minutes you get, and then they say you can roll them over. At the end of the month there isn't a whole lot to roll over and if there is, you still paid way to much for it.
Solution: Match people up with the right rate plan the first time, with a lot of minutes for a low rate that renew every month. Like T-mobile.
Third the coverage map is deceptive. Showing people where they are in the orange is a very inaccurate way to determine if someone is in proper coverag...
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Cingular has nice phones. I really hope they become at&t wireless again.
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dont think they will become AT&T again but if i am not mistaken they may just be training their reps to handle AT&T customer care with bills and plans and such
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imcoolerthanyou said:
First and foremost, I don't work for T-mobile, Im just a satisfied customer and you don't need to be rude just because of your poor taste in wireless carriers.
Second rollover is a joke. What a marketing scam, lets break this down. Cingular charges way to much for the minutes you get, and then they say you can roll them over. At the end of the month there isn't a whole lot to roll over and if there is, you still paid way to much for it.
Solution: Match people up with the right rate plan the first time, with a lot of minutes for a low rate that renew every month. Like T-mobile.
Third the coverage map is deceptive. Showing people where they are in the orange is a very inaccurate way to
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Cingular still has a crappy image, and their reps have a very ghetto unprofessional attitude. They also have no business charging the prices verizon does. You can feel positive about cingular all you want, most people have gotten the hint about their ghetto image and that is shown with their continued high churn and weak numbers. People are flocking away from cingular and the other providers and blossoming.
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ArmySF said:
Cingular still has a crappy image, and their reps have a very ghetto unprofessional attitude. They also have no business charging the prices verizon does. You can feel positive about cingular all you want, most people have gotten the hint about their ghetto image and that is shown with their continued high churn and weak numbers. People are flocking away from cingular and the other providers and blossoming.
They have no business charging the prices Verizon does? Why not? I live in Pittsburgh and I'd be willing to pay $10 more a month for what I get from Cingular,
because they're better than Verizon. That may not be the case everywhere, and it may not be the case for you...but YOU hav...
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i think that people who argue what service is better need to stop drinking the kool-aid and stop licking their corporations figurative butt.
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Well it probably wouldn't happen if people didn't feel it was necessary to come into forums like these and accuse all the users of a certain company of having bad judgement and a lack of taste.
It's stupid I know. But it always happens.
My original purpose in this thread was to stress that Rollover is not a gimmick. Others felt the need to take this off on a tangent, not me.
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I totally agree with you RUFF1415! I boast about Cingular not because I am "drinking the kool-aid", but rather because I am a satisfied customer, and was before I started working for the company. I don't agree with everything, but there will be give and take with any carrier.
Rollover is not a gimmick, no matter how you try and put it. It's not as helpful for everyone, but that in no way makes it a gimmick!
As far as arguing which carrier is the best, it is totally stupid. Location and user and all sorts of variables go into that discussion and will recover different results. All I can talk about is my personal experience with any given company, which is not out of line nor a waste of breath. Those who go around boasting how ...
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As far coverage, voice quality and service, I do have problem with my Cingular service. However, rollover IS NOT a joke! I've been using Cingular service for 2 years and I have NEVER need to pay extra for over usage. I do use more than my 500 anytime minutes every few months but rollover is there to save me.
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In my opinion and only my opinion cingular has forgotten about there customers I remember 2 years ago when a Cingular rep would go out of their way to make you happy that simple aspect has been lost/stoped by cingular. Most cingular reps hands are tied like the pricing the phone $40 more than it is to sell 2 accessories cingular needs to get back to basics and concentrate on customers
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I dont know where you are getting this ghetto crap from. I do not live in the ghetto and you sir are rude. I think the problem is that you havent gotten your way and that is why you are blasting cingular.
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First of all, Cingular has the largest native network in North America. T-Mobile can try to "match" Cingular's coverage all they want, but it will never be native coverage which has a multitude of advantages over roaming agreements. A T-Mobile phone isn't as likely to pick up roaming coverage when any T-Mobile service is available. So even when your in roaming coverage if your phone can reach that weak, crappy T-Mobile signal from a tower 10 miles...it will. Native coverage is what matters most.
Plus, realize that half of T-Mobile's phones won't even support the roaming agreements that you see on their national coverage map. A 1900mhz phone isn't going to do you much good when the only sign
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ROLLOVER IS A JOKE AND A GIMMICK 🤣
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Secondly, don't ever call Rollover a joke until you've used it. You never know what's going to happen. I'm on an 850 minute plan with Rollover and on average I usually use somewhere in the 700 minute range. The next smallest plan would be too little for my needs. So I am on the right plan for my needs and I roll over about 150 minutes per month.
My 66 year-old grandmother was diagnosed with acute myeloid leukemia just this week and I can tell you that Rollover minutes have been my savior. Communicating with my relatives and being able to speak with my grandmother through this all wouldn't have been possible without Rollover. In the past few months I've been able to accrue around 1,100 Rollover minutes. I ran out of 850 anytime minutes
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Does Cingular have someplace online where you can check coverage by street, or is it ONLY possible in a Cingular store?
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It's only possible through a Cingular store.
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i agree. although it is close, cingular is a bigger network quality wise, coverage wise and capacity wise.. t-mobile has a problem with lack of spectrum.
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Hopefully they can fix that problem soon.
I personally think T-Mobile as a whole would be doing much better if they would have made the decision to attain and deploy service in the 850 band years ago when DT first purchased Voicestream.
I guess the only hindering factor would have been a limited selection of handsets (but Cingular seems to do fine with offering a wide variety of phones with the 850 band).
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i agree.
well tmobile has a problem with spectrum and a lack of it and that is what is hindering their growth.. (yes they are growing but they can grow more and increase their coverage if they have spectrum) they dont have spectrum in many many areas. perhaps during the next auctions they can buy spectrum and then do some coverage rollouts or perhaps buy some companies who are already there in the marketplace..
t-mobile has many problems that it must fix first before moving on and the same with cingular... time will only tell, however, i really want tmobile to do well and to compete in this marketplace or else they would see a selling of the company so DT can focus on their core markets and buy a more successful USA carrier.
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THE ONLY REASON THAT T-MOBILE HAS A PERSONAL COVERAGE CHECK IS BECAUSE THEIR COVERAGE IS THAT BAD, THAT THEY WANT THE CUSTOMER TO BE CERTAIN IT WILL WORK AT THEIR HOME BEFORE THEY PURCHASE AND SIGN UP.
ALSO, THE REASON THEY DO ONE YEAR CONTRACTS IS BECAUSE IT GIVES THE CUSTOMER ONLY ONE YEAR AND THEN THEY CAN FINISH WITH THEIR CRAPPY SERVICE THAT HAS HOLES EVERYWHERE AND THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY'RE DISSATISFIED WITH.
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MAN SONE ONE SOLD YOU THAT, OR DID YOU COME UP WITH ALL THAT BS BY YOUR SELF, THINK BEFORE YOU SPEEK, THAT IS OUR GAME PLAN. HAHA
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I CAME UP WITH IT MYSELF, BUT IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. LEARN TO TYPE AND LEARN TO SPELL, BEFORE YOU INSULT SOMEONE ELSES INTELLIGENT BY TELLING THEM TO 'THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK', WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN SPELL IT.
HAHA THAT. RETARD.
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"hink before you speak" 😁 ok I will
you know that is just a typing error I wasn’t doing a book report, and I wish you excuse me on my spelling mistake but, the main issue stop ridding on the carrier, they are service providers, there is no human interest in any one of them, ok chief and thank you for the correction. Its all about the game plan.
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Your grammar amuses me to no avail.
I can only hope that English isn't your first language.
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Although I love T-Mobile, I don't think you should start a flame war. Oh and I like Cingular too.
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imcoolerthanyou said:
T-mobile basically has equivelant coverage to Cingular. If the last time you compared coverage maps was the around the same time you were packing around a Audiovox CDM-8150X, its about time to try again.
I know this may be difficult, considering Cingular's "future" coverage is similar in color to their current coverage, not to mention the intentionally small coverage map which blends the two together, appearing to cover the whole nation.
T-mobile also provides their customers with a personal coverage check which acctually allows the customer to see how the coverage will work for them instead of being blinded by a sea of orange.
So that is pretty much the knock-out punch. T-mobile has better
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Mayben in your area of the world tmobile may have better coverage. In my area tmobile is the absolute worst of all the carriers. 5 miles either side of the interstate, other than that forget it. Cingular has more service in my area hands down. More service, Best phones, i can live with the customer service since they have the only service that actually works. Cingular has over 90 towers in the county i live in....Tmobile has 29. IF HAVING MORE MINUTES FOR LESS MONEY IS ALL ITS ABOUT, THEN TMOBILE. WANT YOUR PHONE TO WORK IN MORE AREAS SO YOU CAN USE THOSE MINUTES THEN CINGULAR!
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Feb 25, 2006, 11:33 PM
IMcoolerthanyou, your words are as deceptive as you calim cingulars map to be..... saying tmo has "basically" has the same coverage are is different then saying they DO have the same coverage area. It's untrue either way, you need to look at cingulars map more closely, most of the orange you see is current coverage. There are areas of future coverage on their clearly depicted as such. Maybe youre eyes dont see orange to well, but I can clearly see those areas. We can also pinpoint coverage and tower locations on our maptool and tell customers what coverage will be like in their area. Cingular has had that functionality since I started working for them 2 yrs ago, so thats nothing new...... Im glad you satisfied with t-mobile. They are a great...
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T-mobile just sucks. They have the most annoying commercials in the world. Phones? Who wants a sidekicked so it can get hacked over there network. I've had sprint, cingular, and verizon. Sprint is a joke in my opinion, verizon is ok, but I love my cingular phone. Tmobile has terrible coverage I don't care what a map says I know people that have it and they get really bad coverage where I have 5 bars. I wish cingular would combine with verizon. Or flat out buy them. it won't happen but if they did maybe we could have a flawless network.
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snatch0485 said:
I wish cingular would combine with verizon. Or flat out buy them.
LMAO, 🤣 🤣 I would take T-Mobile over cingular anyday. o wait, maybe t-mobile will buy sprint 🙄 🤣
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Dude do you realize how much chaos that would actually cause with your network? CDMA & GSM plus verizon has a good foot hold but as someone said earlier your coverage is only good if you have a good home coverage roaming stinks. Thats how verizon keeps their map totally red is with roaming agreement with regional carriers. Cingular is a great company I think they just need to get back to basics with customer service from start to finish thats all.
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I cant believe bunch of grown people fighting about two giant company, go get a life, if one company doesn’t work for your then stop using it, and yes 450 min for 40.00 is too much money these days and if Cingular or Verizon is the only one that can offer the service to you in your area for that price pay the dam thing and don’t complain any more, Cingular has roll over, T-mobile has the get more min and Verizon has the biggest network and that other carrier that is so confused for now that it doesn’t know what it wants to do. T-mobile will not buy sprint and Verizon will not be sold to Cingular, what might happen T-mobile could merge with Cingular or Cingular might pay the ultimate price of 50 billion to acquire the net work, stop talk...
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No T-mobile and Cingular are not the same they are two big ass carriers one is the third biggest GSM carrier in the world and the other one is the biggest GSM service provider based on the number of customer, since they bought At&t , also they cater to different group of customer, one gives more min and the other one gives you roll over min form the service point yes Cingular has the largest and better coverage in the us market over all, but their GSM network is same as T-mobile because they use each others antennas, they also have the old TDMA and digital phones and antennas, soon they will switch all to 850 frequency then T-mobile and Cingular will have the same voice reception all over us, unless they decide NOT to give each other ...
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Really?
They why can't T-Mobile customers use their phones outside of my home county yet Cingular works?
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First, learn to spell equivalent.
Second, I carry a personal Cingular handset and a T-mobile blackberry for work. If you think the coverage is at all equivalent, you're nuts. My blackberry is searching for a signal far more often than the Cingular handset, and the blackberry has a reputation for pretty good reception.
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dca
Feb 27, 2006, 1:39 PM
That's it!!! No more roaming for you!!! *ripping up T-Mo roaming agreements w/ Cingy*
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I like tmo however this is not true where I need coverage. I hope that TMO continues to expand 850 mhz roaming & does not over-rely on UMA to expand their coverage...
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