they dont need any spectrum anyway so there is no point of them buying it.. they already have more then the neccessary 20mhz in many many key markets to deploy data.

I don't get it... nothing is changing about the structure of the company...

Why is it that cingular is being singled out? Tmobile is wholly owned, and Verizon is trying to buy the remaining stake in VZW. So does this mean Verizon will be left out of the auctions also?

well, that isnt true neccessary becuase they will be a bigger company with their network side, and have more capital to invest, which means that they could pose a threat to the rest of the industry. i think the senate is just saying that cingular has a lot of spectrum in many markets, in fact they had to divest becuase of the ATTWS cingular deal, so they are just saying please dont buy any spectrum. it makes sense becuase 1. they dont need it and 2. other companies do, such as tmobile usa.

verizon wireless still needs some spectrum in a few areas to increase capacity and roll out their ev-do, however, they have been buying up companies so i am sure that the fcc will ask them not to take part of the auction becuase as mentioned before, ot...
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what they are basically trying to say is that if verizon and cingular own enough of the spectrum in the majority of the markets they can fix the prices at favorable rates for them selves and make it harder for smaller carriers to compete in a given market and squeze them out.

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Misleading subject line. Anyway, the Republican majority in the Senate has not proven to be very consumer friendly so I doubt the Senate will try to block the purchase of more spectrum by at&t as called for by the Consumers Union.

the consumers union hasn't done anything worth noting since the 80's. they need to give up. it hurts every cell phone user out there. if there weren't so many regulations and hurdels in the way, we could do away with regional wireless carries and let the big boys actually provide their own coverage everywhere.

You're right, they probably won't allow them anyway... But, the funny thing would've been scooping up what they can and leaving T-Mo with the, "now how the h*ll are we gonna' get data going?"

i guess that is the case but i think it would be best for competitors to compete and to be allowed to buy out spectrum that is neccessary for their future but more important is to allow for competition which helps the consumer.

first i thought that the tactic about bidding up the spectrum on purpose would be a good idea, but i dont think it is becuase the top 3 carriers do not need any new 3g spectrum becuase they have plenty.

yes, it is business, but i think it would be best to let tmobile usa and other companies (other then the top 3 ) to bid on the spectrum..

Absolutely. Competition is healthy and that's the idea. They'll be plenty of non-Tier 1 carriers vying for it, also. The capper will be if someone outside the top three is awarded the spectrum and they have to either wait nine years (so they can recoup money) to deploy anything or seek a huge loan from either a bank or (In T-Mo's case) their parent company....

Well if it is one of the smaller carriers their capital expenditures will be smaller which allows for better pricing and they will probably recoup those costs in a few years or so. (i didnt do any math so that is obviously a rough guess) They can also focus on more of their customers better then the top 3 which will allow them to add services that differs them from the top 3. The Top 3 sometimes dont care about certain areas while the other carriers do and that will allow those lower carriers to do quite well. Look at Alltel, nextel partners, and others (especially tmobile) becuase they are showing why it is important to focus on a certain number of pops and subscribers to allow to increase arpu (both data and voice), lower churn, and impr...
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It will be interesting to see. For all I know it could be a bunch of regional players causing a bidding war just to fight the possibility of turning into a Qwest-style MVNO.

yea that could be true... or you can have some of the cable companies or other telephone companies bidding for the spectrum to offer differnt services...

qwest style mvno? uhh oh.. lol you are actually mentioning quest which is a chapter 11 bound company. lol.

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