I find it extremely odd...
...that Cingular was rated a TWO dot rating in all regions of the JD Power survey this year when just last year they were ONE POINT from #1 (they had a five dot rating just as Verizon and T-Mobile) in the northeast region. They had mostly fours and threes throughout the rest of the regions.
Now explain to me how network quality can have dropped so dramatically in less than a year.
Sounds like disgruntled AT&T customers who are missing their minutes to me.
I live in Pittsburgh and I will tell you that Cingular has made dramatic improvements in the old AT&T network. No degradation there.
JD Power surveys are bogus...it's truly unbelievable.
Now explain to me how network quality can have dropped so dramatically in less than a year.
Sounds like disgruntled AT&T customers who are missing their minutes to me.
I live in Pittsburgh and I will tell you that Cingular has made dramatic improvements in the old AT&T network. No degradation there.
JD Power surveys are bogus...it's truly unbelievable.
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agreed. When you pull from such small samples as JD Power does, you will get results like these. Ive been trying to inform them of this. As users we want to know if the phone works. We get this info from field tests NOT SURVEY'S. Consumer Reports is a much better tool to use to check out information like this. Funny thing is that it rated Cingular 2 dots in the southwest region, when this is their strongest region. They have been running commercials touted their network here for about a couple of weeks. Its just crazy!
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agreed. When you pull from such small samples as JD Power does, you will get results like these. Ive been trying to inform them of this. As users we want to know if the phone works. We get this info from field tests NOT SURVEY'S. Consumer Reports is a much better tool to use to check out information like this. Funny thing is that it rated Cingular 2 dots in the southwest region, when this is their strongest region. They have been running commercials touted their network here for about a couple of weeks. Its just crazy!
JD POWER is full of crap as normal.See if you check from about 1 week ago LA TIMES, NY TIMES AND USA TODAY all said that cingular has the best network with the fewest dr...
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Figures don't lie, but liars can figure. 🙄
Figures don't lie. Of course figures don't lie; math involves perfect logic. However this little phrase often reminds me to look twice at any statistical data that is shoved in front of my nose as "proof" of something. You see, statistical data can be gathered in any number of mischevious ways in order to slant the outcome. For instance:
Survey Guy Zero: Would you rather live near a forest filled with rodents and insects, or a new shopping center?
Survey Guy One: Would you rather preserve a natural habitat, or live near a dirty strip mall?
Both of these people will probably show up at the zoning board meeting with statistical data that strongly supports their point of view.
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Figures don't lie. Of course figures don't lie; math involves perfect logic. However this little phrase often reminds me to look twice at any statistical data that is shoved in front of my nose as "proof" of something. You see, statistical data can be gathered in any number of mischevious ways in order to slant the outcome. For instance:
Survey Guy Zero: Would you rather live near a forest filled with rodents and insects, or a new shopping center?
Survey Guy One: Would you rather preserve a natural habitat, or live near a dirty strip mall?
Both of these people will probably show up at the zoning board meeting with statistical data that strongly supports their point of view.
But...
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thegreatrep said: But it gets worse. People will take surveys in areas that they know will support their point of view, they will often do everything short of outright making figures up. I think most of us would be well advised to not take statistics as proof of anything.
Which is why Verizon performing their own drive tests and claiming that they, themselves, are the best is bogus.
thegreatrep said: Figures don't lie. Of course figures don't lie; math involves perfect logic. However this little phrase often reminds me to look twice at any statistical data that is shoved in front of my nose as "proof" of something. You see, statistical data can be gathered in any number of mischevious wa...
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