Merger
I've always thought that this merger is not going to have a good outcome for us customers, Imaging after Cingular & ATT merger VZW and Sprint merging also, then picture T-mobile being bought out by whatever ATT & Cingular's new name would be, that will leave us with only 2 main providers, competition would be terrible, prices might go up etc etc.
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I don't see Verizon buying out Sprint anytime soon. Aslo, T-Mobile has turned down many offers to be bought out by Cingular. T-Mobile is a "stubborn" company, so I don't think we'll be seeing them giving up on themselves anytime soon. 😉
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RUFF1415 said:
I don't see Verizon buying out Sprint anytime soon. Aslo, T-Mobile has turned down many offers to be bought out by Cingular. T-Mobile is a "stubborn" company, so I don't think we'll be seeing them giving up on themselves anytime soon. 😉
ACTUALLY, Cingular ALMOST bought T-mobile a few years ago. The deal was in place and i believe there was already government approval, but when the new head of Deutch Telekom saw that T-mobile was bleeding money the SLOWEST of all the companies it owned, he decided to back out of the deal with Cingular.
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Exactly. Like I said, T-Mobile has had several offers by Cingular, even since then. What I'm saying is that I don't see T-Mobile falling for Cingular. They've become more stubborn of a company through time. They aren't going to give up on themselves that easily. T-Mobile's stance has changed drastically and they are aiming to stay independent. What I'm trying to say is, since they backed out of that deal they have turned down countless offers from Cingular, proving just how stubborn they've become.
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Anxiovert said:A) VZW is not interested in Sprint due to their heavy debt load. B) The FCC would not allow the new Cingular to buy Tmobile...that would be a monopoly. There's still plenty of competition from other national, regional and local carriers.
I've always thought that this merger is not going to have a good outcome for us customers, Imaging after Cingular & ATT merger VZW and Sprint merging also, then picture T-mobile being bought out by whatever ATT & Cingular's new name would be, that will leave us with only 2 main providers, competition would be terrible, prices might go up etc etc.
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no, a monopoly is where a company owns 90% of the market. cing buying t-mo is not anything near a monopoly
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NeumZ said:Where to you guys get your information on the industry...Sports Illustrated? The FCC would NOT, I repeat NOT, let the new Cingular buyout Tmobile. And besides, Tmobile's not interested.
no, a monopoly is where a company owns 90% of the market. cing buying t-mo is not anything near a monopoly
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muchdrama said:
Where to you guys get your information on the industry...Sports Illustrated? The FCC would NOT, I repeat NOT, let the new Cingular buyout Tmobile. And besides, Tmobile's not interested.
i bet they would. maybe not in the next year if there was such a proposal, but i bet they would. T-mobile is a company that is (and has been since day 1) losing money every quarter. I would tend to imagine the feds would like to see that same company become one that was profitable, new name or otherwise. it would be better for the economy in general, and there would still be enough carriers for a customer to make a choice, and not be forced into a particular company.
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jinx7676 said:You mean losing less and less money every quarter. They're adding subs at an astounding rate. Deutsche Telekom recognizes this. They are not going to sell Tmobile USA when it's starting to realize its potential. And YES...for the last time...the DOJ would NOT allow the new Cingular to buyout Tmobile...even if Deutsche Telekom was selling.muchdrama said:
Where to you guys get your information on the industry...Sports Illustrated? The FCC would NOT, I repeat NOT, let the new Cingular buyout Tmobile. And besides, Tmobile's not interested.
T-mobile is a company that is (and has been since day 1) losing money every quarter.
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muchdrama said:
You mean losing less and less money every quarter. They're adding subs at an astounding rate. Deutsche Telekom recognizes this. They are not going to sell Tmobile USA when it's starting to realize its potential. And YES...for the last time...the DOJ would NOT allow the new Cingular to buyout Tmobile...even if Deutsche Telekom was selling.
this reminds me of that game I used to play all the time as a kid...what was it called.....MONOPOLY, thats it
Cingular will merge with TMobile when Microsoft buys out Macintosh and Sun Microsystems
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All this talk is pretty pointless. Cingular would not be interested in a buyout of Tmobile after the ATTWS merger. Every area tmobile covers in the US is covered rather well and in some cases ALOT better by Cingular and/or ATTWS. All those licenses would be redundant. Now, if Cingular was to buy the network to use as a prepaid network or lease it out to virtual network operators(like virgin)... that would be a different case. And no the fcc and the doj would NOT allow it if it were another merger. but if operated as a separate company... totally changes things. I think Tmobile USA is a little behind... they could be making a killing doing what Sprint PCS does with Virgin. They have to be thinking SOMETHING soon... they don't have any 3G plan...
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All this talk is pretty pointless. Cingular would not be interested in a buyout of Tmobile after the ATTWS merger. Every area tmobile covers in the US is covered rather well and in some cases ALOT better by Cingular and/or ATTWS. All those licenses would be redundant. Now, if Cingular was to buy the network to use as a prepaid network or lease it out to virtual network operators(like virgin)... that would be a different case. And no the fcc and the doj would NOT allow it if it were another merger. but if operated as a separate company... totally changes things. I think Tmobile USA is a little behind... they could be making a killing doing what Sprint PCS does with Virgin. They have to be thinking SOMETHING
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phonepimp3376 said:Yeah. They're starting to see the benefits of diminishing churn and adding so many subscribers: Shrinking debt and a optimistic outlook. I just think they've been waiting on EDGE to A) See what it's capable of. and B) Not sink their current progress.
I too have heard they plan on deploying EDGE by years end.
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Most likely. They're a pretty bright bunch. And their parent company ain't no joke either.
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Well, Tmobile just set the world speed record for wireless data transfer. They did it in hungary on an ericsson edge network. That's why I'm surprised to see them not doing something sooner in the US.
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CainMarko said:One word: caution.
Well, Tmobile just set the world speed record for wireless data transfer. They did it in hungary on an ericsson edge network. That's why I'm surprised to see them not doing something sooner in the US.
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Yeah. There aren't too many reasons for caution in this market. If US cellular can go national with CDMA, then Tmobile USA can launch EDGE and 3G. Caution is good, BUT companies like VZW and Cingular didn't get where they were by not taking risks. Tmobile has a large enuff customer base... they should utilize it. Nextel will be going directly to wcdma, if I'm not mistaken. They don't see the need for caution.
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Cain, do you mind filling me in about what Caution is. Also, EV-DO, and EDGE. what is the difference. And which is newer, or better.
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