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New phone shortage....

colione112

Sep 3, 2006, 1:38 AM
I wonder who's in charge of getting new (and exciting) models of phones approved and out to market..

I applaud the fact phones are not passing the testing phase if they don't truly deserve to pass, but they had to realize phones were going to fail and begin testing different models.

If the phone lineup doesn't improve drastically soon, it's gonna be a stumbling block for Cingular.

This doesn't make sense to me...

4 colors of Razrs and 2 for the L7...
Not to mention a white version of the d807 due out this month....

In the end, we're gonna have 5 phone models in all different colors. Someone needs to make some hard decissions in the product department.
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temnik

Sep 3, 2006, 9:56 AM
"Testing Phase" does not make sense to me. My Motorola V551 supposedly passed all imaginable testing - then why is it rebooting at random just a bit more than 1 year later??

Here is my guess. Offering a new phone model costs company money in terms of training CSR and supporting it. If not for competition, we would have only one "officially supported" phone model. With competition, it seems Cingular is trying to get away with the minimum it can.
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colione112

Sep 3, 2006, 5:50 PM
I think at the time the v551 was out, the testing wasn't as stringent... and they rushed to get phones out that shouldn't have been out. (think v180, 220, c1300)

I think now they are being a little more strict as far as quality goes.
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Icyhot

Sep 4, 2006, 1:24 AM
So any ideas why Suncom has had the w810 for 2 months and Cingular doesn't??
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colione112

Sep 4, 2006, 11:26 AM
Only reason I can come up with is they want to have enough inventory so there isn't a shortage... (kinda far fetched, but it's all I got lol)
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ygbhen

Sep 4, 2006, 11:10 PM
I think it has to do with the testing. Realize that Suncom only has to test things in the 1900 band whereas Cingular has 2 bands and network integration to complete.
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Icyhot

Sep 4, 2006, 11:31 PM
Does Suncom use the 850 band? I was under the impression they did.
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ygbhen

Sep 4, 2006, 11:48 PM
Nope! Their native coverage is the 1900 band.
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Icyhot

Sep 4, 2006, 11:55 PM
Oh ok, I just know a girl who goes to Clemson University and has Suncom. She got the w810 so she has no problem picking up the 850 on Cingular when she needs it since the phone is quadband.
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Icyhot

Sep 4, 2006, 11:57 PM
But wasn't Suncom a part of AT&T's network? Why wouldn't they have 850??
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ygbhen

Sep 5, 2006, 12:02 AM
No they were just partners. ATT probably did not have any towers in the Carolinas and just worked out a deal with Suncom. Similar to the deal that Cingy had in place with T Mobile in California before the ATT merger. Thats how T Mobile was able to get into the California and Neveda market.
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chainsaw

Sep 4, 2006, 12:32 PM
The majority of my customers don't care about having phones with the latest and greatest technologies. Most of mine just want a phone that works to make calls. A few of them want a camera phone and very few have come in asking about a 3g phone because they are too cheap around here to pay for the data. Our current line up works pretty well for us here in the mountain west.
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colione112

Sep 4, 2006, 9:04 PM
Don't get me wrong... most of our customers don't even know about 3g. But we could use a phone that creates a buzz like the Razr did a year and half ago.. The d807 would have been perfect for this, but marketing slipped on this for some reason.

I think it's going to take the "nationwide" launch of 3g to get another marketing blitz going like they had for the Razr (not counting the advertising for the merger).
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chainsaw

Sep 4, 2006, 9:23 PM
I totally agree. The pantech has created quite a buzz but is quite a disappointment in the feature department. they need something like the chocolate(but a good phone) and need to advertise the crap out of it. I'm sure there is something in the near future but time will tell(hopefully around the hollidays)
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colione112

Sep 4, 2006, 11:11 PM
The Slvr had the opp to be a great phone because of the i-Tunes alliance. But they sputtered with the advertising.

We also need a text messaging phone (with a full keyboard) to capture some hardcore text messaging people.

It seems the company is reacting to trends a little late instead of setting the pace for other companies to follow. We are the largest, it's time the brass starts to act like it.
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the_eraser

Sep 4, 2006, 11:22 PM
I think they are focused on network right now. If anyone wants a texting device they could always get a blackberry or PDA. I am as shocked as everyone else about the lack of phones, but I know that whenever Cingular starts spitting out phones it will be putting the competition to shame. Again...
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colione112

Sep 4, 2006, 11:48 PM
Yea, they could get a BB or PDA, but there is no rebate if they don't sign up for the data plan...

Why not put something out like the f9200, and actually keep it for a while. That phone was out for like 2 or 3 months then dissappeared...

I'd like to carry the updated version of the 6820 from nokia... that was a damn good phone.
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ygbhen

Sep 4, 2006, 11:55 PM
I hear you. It has been a slow quarter. I bought the D807 but it was not fulfilling. I want something bad but nothing has caught my eye. It would be nice for a f9200 type device (non PDA) with HSDPA to be released or the N80 to drop. What I dont understand is why it is so hard for Nokia, Sony Ericcson, and Motorola to make a chipset for 850 HSDPA. This seems to have everybody tripped up except Samsung and LG. I think that this is the main hold-up for feature-full handsets.
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colione112

Sep 5, 2006, 12:44 AM
I believe the "lack" of umts/hsdpa phones from other manuf, has something to do with LG and Samsung getting the exclusive on the launch devices... they've had more time to develop devices, since they had the "specs" early on... It's the same with the PTT phones... (which are scheduled to roll out at a fast and furious pace over the next few months).
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ygbhen

Sep 4, 2006, 11:27 PM
I personally do not think that Cingular has anything to worry about. They were second in adds last quarter behind Verizon which is the benchmark, so for Cingular to jump ahead, they will have to complete network integration, speed up the deployment of 3-3.5g, and provide customers with a better wireless experience. The current and upcoming selection of phones is pretty good. The W810 can handle its own against the Chocolate. The KRZR, Tytn, Treo 750, and Star Trek will also be a nice addition. Instead of worrying about one upping VZ on phones they should be working more aggressively on getting HSDPA in all major cities. They are already almost 2 years behind. The handsets will come but they have to take care of preparing the infrastruc...
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