fewest dropped calls.. enough!!
Cingular has sung that song waaaaay too much now. Cingular has finally been recognized for some kind of network acheivement, and the company goes ballistic about it and starts throwing parades for itself.
Fewest dropped calls, ok ok, so they were recognized for this one statistic of network reliability, out of lets see like a total of 10 statistics. But what about inneffective call attempts, area reception, voice feedback, or overall reliability? eeeeh, Cingular doesn't mention anything about those things, now do they?
My point is, Cingular should have received a trophy or something, and moved on. This single stat of fewest dropped calls that Cingular is announcing as if they've found a 2nd earth is getting irrita...
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Fewest dropped calls, ok ok, so they were recognized for this one statistic of network reliability, out of lets see like a total of 10 statistics. But what about inneffective call attempts, area reception, voice feedback, or overall reliability? eeeeh, Cingular doesn't mention anything about those things, now do they?
My point is, Cingular should have received a trophy or something, and moved on. This single stat of fewest dropped calls that Cingular is announcing as if they've found a 2nd earth is getting irrita...
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I agree on the adds being repetitive. Fewest dropped calls. Most reliable Network (now It's the network!) are being played repeatedly over and over. That's the whole point of adds.
When you think of Cingular, what's the first thing that comes to mind....?
When you think of Cingular, what's the first thing that comes to mind....?
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BeachSlapped said:
When you think of Cingular, what's the first thing that comes to mind....?
LIARS
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New_2_T-Mobile said:BeachSlapped said:
When you think of Cingular, what's the first thing that comes to mind....?
LIARS
Troll
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well if you people would turn off their phns for once and not keep them on all the time like you are all so important....since you all are so smart you should know to power cycle your phones on a daily basis since there are updates which are sent to you every day and you won't receive them if not shut off..so why don't you all try this first before calling in to customer care and complaining....oh also try being smart and call in on a landline.always calling in on the phn and can't help you.
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BeachSlapped said:
I agree on the adds being repetitive. Fewest dropped calls. Most reliable Network (now It's the network!) are being played repeatedly over and over. That's the whole point of adds.
When you think of Cingular, what's the first thing that comes to mind....?
When I think of Cingular the first thing I think of is Stanley Sigman's fat white ass.
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Eww, you've seen his butt?
I once cut out a little picture of him and taped it on my desk. I found it amusing.
I once cut out a little picture of him and taped it on my desk. I found it amusing.
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i want a recount on the drop call thing 60% of all my calls in a day are my phone drops calls.
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Well, then it is up to YOU to find out whether they are still on TDMA or they have a crappy phone i.e (C1300, T720)
If they have a new phone 90% of the times they didn't get/refused to activate the 64K SIM. I don't know what is it about customers not wanting to activate the 64K SIM that comes in the mail. A lot of plp who order online just put their old SIM card and go...
If they have a new phone 90% of the times they didn't get/refused to activate the 64K SIM. I don't know what is it about customers not wanting to activate the 64K SIM that comes in the mail. A lot of plp who order online just put their old SIM card and go...
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because let us face it. customers are stupid .i truely think that store reps can have them sign over their houses and they would never know.
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It puzzles me how cingular claims to have the fewest dropped calls when it makes more sense for Verizon or Sprint to make that claim. Heres why:
Since 2 GSM carriers are making this claim and no CDMA carriers are, it really confuses me. Anyone care to enlighten me? 😕
A dropped call technically means when a call is lost due to a strain on the Network as opposed to going to of the coverage area. The technology of GSM that Cingular uses is based on TDMA and cannot handle as many conversations on its network at one time than CDMA (Verizon and Sprint).
Since 2 GSM carriers are making this claim and no CDMA carriers are, it really confuses me. Anyone care to enlighten me? 😕
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Sure, that is why Cingular has thousands of more towers than VZ or Sprint. Also, CDMA might can allow for larger capacity but I have too many buddies who use Sprint and have coverage issues (Houston, TX), so there has to be a little more to it than GSM and CDMA.
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With CDMA, signal strength and the number of users on a tower are relative. As the number of users on a single CDMA tower goes up and the capacity is approached, the signal strength in the radius directly around the tower grows considerably weaker.
This effect in turn causes connections further away from the CDMA tower to "drop" due to loss of signal (strength) and therefore results in more dropped calls. You don't have this same effect with GSM technology.
This effect in turn causes connections further away from the CDMA tower to "drop" due to loss of signal (strength) and therefore results in more dropped calls. You don't have this same effect with GSM technology.
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yup, you just mentioned channel pollution when its tooo many people on a channel or frequency and the quality/strength of the call and signal deteriorates
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RUFF1415 said:
With CDMA, signal strength and the number of users on a tower are relative. As the number of users on a single CDMA tower goes up and the capacity is approached, the signal strength in the radius directly around the tower grows considerably weaker.
This effect in turn causes connections further away from the CDMA tower to "drop" due to loss of signal (strength) and therefore results in more dropped calls. You don't have this same effect with GSM technology.
granted, but typically more users can be talking on one CDMA tower at one time than a GSM tower. there are advantages and disadvantages to both.
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85percent said:...RUFF1415 said:
With CDMA, signal strength and the number of users on a tower are relative. As the number of users on a single CDMA tower goes up and the capacity is approached, the signal strength in the radius directly around the tower grows considerably weaker.
This effect in turn causes connections further away from the CDMA tower to "drop" due to loss of signal (strength) and therefore results in more dropped calls. You don't have this same effect with GSM technology.
granted, but typically more users can be talking on one CDMA tower at one time than a GSM tower. there are advantages and disadvantages to both.
the thing is with Cingular, they tote about having
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RUFF1415 said:
...but trust that they soon will lay claim to being the other "most reliable network."
I wouldn't say the "other" most.... 🤨 I would say The New Most Reliable Network! 😈
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This is true it is called "localizing" but the reality is that a GSM network will overload and block calls way before a CDMA network will localize. The CDMA operator has the option of raising the noise floor and allowing more users to have access to the network. CDMA is very flexible and can be configured to meet almost any need. You will see this same thing with UMTS since it is a code division product. Code division products allocate bandwidth dynamically, according to the need of the users while a time division product (GSM) allocates fixed bandwidth segments.
Dropped calls happen on all networks. Radio is a very imperfect thing. Many things can effect whether a network has dropped calls or not. Quantity of towers in the area is a huge...
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Dropped calls happen on all networks. Radio is a very imperfect thing. Many things can effect whether a network has dropped calls or not. Quantity of towers in the area is a huge...
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renardlee said:
lets not start this whole dumba** debate between GSM vs. CDMA
yea I agree. these debates are old.
p.s.
cdma is better
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rytr23 said:
PS So was Betamax... 🙄 😉
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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But it's ok for Verizon to keep advertising over and over that "it's the network" for reliability??
Come on man... if it's ok for one company to keep advertising, it's ok for another.
Come on man... if it's ok for one company to keep advertising, it's ok for another.
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colione112 said:
But it's ok for Verizon to keep advertising over and over that "it's the network" for reliability??
Come on man... if it's ok for one company to keep advertising, it's ok for another.
network reliability covers many aspects of a network.
fewest dropped calls is a single factor in having a "reliable network"
Which girl would sound more attractive..
"she has pretty hair" (cingular)
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"she's really hot" (verizon)
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True. But it's every companies right to advertise their strong points.
I'm sure if it was the other way around, you wouldn't be saying the same thing your saying now.
I'm sure if it was the other way around, you wouldn't be saying the same thing your saying now.
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Amen. I'm so sick of this conversation
Phone Rings....
Me. Thanks for calling cingular
Cust. Yeah you guys claim to have the least dropped calls don't you?
Me. Thats what the study says.
Cust. Wall I just wanted to call and tell you that you are a liar. And that claim is a crock of Sh!T. I have never dropped so many calls. I was climbing a mountain and I couldnt get any service there. Cingular Sucks.
Me. Were your problems from the 1st day?
Cust. Yah It has sucked since day one.
Me. Well you had thirty days to try it out if you weren't satisfied you could have returned with no ETF.
Cust. Well I don't have service anywhere! I want to cancel and go with someone who knows how to take care of their customers.
Me. Are you on your pho...
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Phone Rings....
Me. Thanks for calling cingular
Cust. Yeah you guys claim to have the least dropped calls don't you?
Me. Thats what the study says.
Cust. Wall I just wanted to call and tell you that you are a liar. And that claim is a crock of Sh!T. I have never dropped so many calls. I was climbing a mountain and I couldnt get any service there. Cingular Sucks.
Me. Were your problems from the 1st day?
Cust. Yah It has sucked since day one.
Me. Well you had thirty days to try it out if you weren't satisfied you could have returned with no ETF.
Cust. Well I don't have service anywhere! I want to cancel and go with someone who knows how to take care of their customers.
Me. Are you on your pho...
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Amen. I'm so sick of this conversation
Phone Rings....
Me. Thanks for calling cingular
Cust. Yeah you guys claim to have the least dropped calls don't you?
Me. Thats what the study says.
Cust. Wall I just wanted to call and tell you that you are a liar. And that claim is a crock of Sh!T. I have never dropped so many calls. I was climbing a mountain and I couldnt get any service there. Cingular Sucks.
Me. Were your problems from the 1st day?
Cust. Yah It has sucked since day one.
Me. Well you had thirty days to try it out if you weren't satisfied you could have returned with no ETF.
Cust. Well I don't have service anywhere! I want to cancel and go with someone who knows how to take care of their
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Not to mention every lost call is concidered a "dropped call." I had a customer in here today admitting they live in an area of very poor reception and still claimed he dropped a lot of calls. Not that he was complaining just miss diagnosing. If cell companies wish to advertise a technological term specific to their product they should advertize the meaning as well.
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Go to the Cingular website and see how many times the dropped calls claim is posted....I counted like 4 within 3 layers of the page.
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