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bizkitsngravy

Nov 30, 2004, 2:10 PM
Just a thought, rather a discussion I had gotten into, not necessarily carrier specific, what are you all's thoughts on this:
With the increasing security in the U.S., some places are beginning to ban camera phones for of course "security reasons". If for example you went into a zoo, or subway, or heck even tourist attraction and were asked to hand over your camera cell phone because someone saw you using it or from a bag search, etc...-Would you consider that violating your personal rights, or would you simply be ok and understand if its for security reasons, then whatever I have to do?
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Aleq

Nov 30, 2004, 3:08 PM
In Soviet Russia, before the collapse, it was very common for tourists and citizens to be arrested and detained for taking pictures of certain areas or buildings or even groups of people that the state would arbitrarily decide were off limits. Would I consider this a huge violation of my civil rights? Bet your butt I would. As far as I know (although I didn't catch the news this morning, so I might not be up to date) the Constitution hasn't been completely repealed, the laws against unreasonable search and seizure are still in effect, and if something is so "sensitive" and a "security risk" that pictures can't be taken of it, it needs to be off limits with a big wall around it. Otherwise, as a free citizen of these sovereign United State...
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southwestcomm

Nov 30, 2004, 8:19 PM
Any institution - whether public or private - can set standards for reasonable use. If camera phones are deemed unreasonable then that is that institution's right. It is illegal to walk down the street and drink a beer. Does that offend your freedom of rights? If you don't like a certain institutions policies don't visit them.
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Aleq

Dec 1, 2004, 10:24 AM
I have no problem with being restricted on camera use while INSIDE a building or facility. As a matter of fact, I use a digicam specifically because of flash restrictions in museums, which are a reasonable limitation. I'm talking about the more general case of not being allowed to use a camera while on public property, i.e., standing on a street corner taking a picture of a building, or having a camera confiscated which is not being used contrary to agreed upon regulations. These are violations of basic civil rights and as such I protest them vehemently.
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TexasJulie

Dec 1, 2004, 11:20 AM
Ive never heard of those restricitions. Ever.
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Aleq

Dec 1, 2004, 11:31 AM
I'm sure you will. But in the meantime, rest assured that everything is JUST FINE. The Government SAYS so.
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TexasJulie

Dec 1, 2004, 12:20 AM
🙄 Get a grip already. I can TOTALLY see the reasons for this.

1. Kids in school. How many kids will get straight A's cuz their buddy took the Algebra test in first period, snapped a picture, and emailed the test off to his buddy's? Cheating with a camera phone-- UNACCEPTABLE.

2. An Art Exhibit. Struggling artist with their first gallery opening. Guests can take pictures with the camera phone. Stealing and Copyright Violations with a cell phone- UNACCEPTABLE.

3. Military Installations. No need for someone taking pictures of Top Secret Stuff and emailing it worldwide to God knows who. Helping Terrorists with a camera phone-- UNACCEPTABLE.

Those are just three (of THOUSANDS) of reasons why some places are restricting th...
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AberFitchDuDe87

Dec 1, 2004, 3:41 AM
In New York City, it is illegal and you will be fined if you are caught taking pictures with a camera phone or a regualer camera in train stations and will be fined $25 as of Dec 1, 2004 (today) it is in affect. I saw this in the news. 😲
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