horko
Dec 3, 2004, 9:41 PM
Thinking of moving from Sprint to T-Mobile because I prefer their phones and data packages. I live in LA, and for every one person who says coverage is bad, another says it's good, so it seems down to personal experience. However, there seems to be some recurring thought that T-Mobile's coverage is not so hot inside buildings, especially compared to Sprint. I think it's something to do with CDMA v 1900mghz GSM, but the bottom line: what is your experience generally with indoor reception?
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you have to test it yourself, your experience is the best answer
get nokia 6010/3660/qd/6600 or moto A630, Tmo has 14 days of trial, or simply borrow a phone from the person you know, who is using Tmo, and try it yourself
Tmo and Sprint use same PCS (1900), the signal characteristics is similar
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Most carriers have coverage problems in one area or another and indoors is becoming a particular sore spot for them. Check out www.deadcellzones.com. It's a great site that will give you access to where the dead cell areas are near you, as well as let you report new dead areas - both indoors and outdoors.
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marketgirl said:
Most carriers have coverage problems in one area or another and indoors is becoming a particular sore spot for them. Check out www.deadcellzones.com. It's a great site that will give you access to where the dead cell areas are near you, as well as let you report new dead areas - both indoors and outdoors.
Wow, in my area it says that nextel has the least "dead zones" with only 1and verizon has the most with 13...T-Mobile is #2 with 4 dead spots.
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listen if you are thinking of leaving sprint to t mobil dont do it. their reception is not great unless you are next to a highway just look at their coverage maps they look like veins they only have coverage near highways i would go with the new cingular they have the best coverage and we rent our towers out to tmobile. by the way we have a 30 day buyers remorse just incase you dont like it. 😁
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😳 So let me get this straight ... in an earlier message you were talking about youre account being written off by T-mobile even though your bill wasnt due and now you're implying that you are a Cingular rep ... wow dude, if thats the case you're an idiot and that whole situation is sad. If you work with accounts on a daily basis like I do how in the wide world of sports did you not know that your CELL PHONE bill was delinquent. Biskitsngravy is being kind ... im not ... you sir are a moron and its probably good that you work for Cingular. Good luck with that, hope it works out. 🤣 🤣
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don't worry about that
I pm'ed the ppl, tell what he/she has to do
once like it, simply go for it
well, I don't say any provider! even in the pm
if he likes Cingular, go for it
if he likes Verizon, go for it
if he likes Nextel, go for it
if he likes T-Mobile, go for it
this is simple, even the most dumbest person in the world can say that!
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listen monkey face i dropped t mobile because i got employed by attws and now i know the difference attws would not do that to a customer we would not write them off just like that. and if they called in we would have a manager on hand to take the call that is why t mobile sucks because they treat their customers like crap. and i cancelled because i thought there was nothing better than tmobile i thought dropped calls were normal and no coverage was normal but hey im just a moron with a better phone and better coverage. Oh and i dont have to live in a cardboard box under the highway to get coverage. 😁
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mr_know_it_all said:
listen if you are thinking of leaving sprint to t mobil dont do it. their reception is not great unless you are next to a highway just look at their coverage maps they look like veins they only have coverage near highways i would go with the new cingular they have the best coverage and we rent our towers out to tmobile. by the way we have a 30 day buyers remorse just incase you dont like it. 😁
http://www.tmobile.com/company/pressroom/ » Just read. Plus T-Mobile just spent 280 million buying towers from cingular in california. Trust me, as you say "rent" we say "roaming agreement" and I Assure you cingular has enough of those with us, too. 🙂
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mr_know_it_all said:
listen if you are thinking of leaving sprint to t mobil dont do it. their reception is not great unless you are next to a highway just look at their coverage maps they look like veins they only have coverage near highways i would go with the new cingular they have the best coverage and we rent our towers out to tmobile. by the way we have a 30 day buyers remorse just incase you dont like it. 😁
The only problem though is that you think that reception for everyone in every location is the same. The fact is it can vary widely from one block to the next and how far away you are from the nearest base station. Making a blanket statement that cingular or sprint or AT&T or anyone for that m...
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horko
Dec 3, 2004, 10:58 PM
um.... so about that indoor reception then....
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you have find answer yourself
that's all I can say
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mingkee said:
you have find answer yourself
that's all I can say
this answer is the typical "cop out" answer for "no, it probobly won't work, but we have do a return policy"
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Aleq
Jan 13, 2005, 3:31 PM
jinx7676 said:
mingkee said:
you have find answer yourself
that's all I can say
this answer is the typical "cop out" answer for "no, it probobly won't work, but we have do a return policy"
No, that's a proper and correct way of saying, "I'm not where you are, and from where I'm standing it looks okay, but since you are there and only you know what you find acceptable, you will have to make the final determination." Only a complete jackass shoots off his mouth about things he can have no empirical knowledge of, but after all isn't that what the Internet is all about? 🙄
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like i said try cingular you can try it for 30 days and if you dont like it you can return everything back to the store just look at the coverage maps and you will see what im talking about. and you can talk to 46 million people for free with our mobile 2 mobile service.
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If they are all a bunch of brainwashed droolers like you why would I want to talk to them ... Face it dude, You were trying to be sneaky with some made up story of being written off and you got your marbles squashed. You got caught and now you have no credibility. 😉
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right... like i said t mobile sucks. enough said. 😎
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Ok, sir...I'm a very nice person, and very knowledgeable and educated in what I do speak of, and on what I don't know I keep my mouth shut until I either a)take the time to reserch and find the facts, and in many of my posts I include URL's of online resources I've used to back up my statements. b) have logic on my side and c) work for and support a company that doesn't advertise like this: http://www.cingular.com/download/compareAd.pd f
Sorry. had to drop the bomb sometime. Thats called slander in my book, bud. T-Mobile will never treat you like that, as we don't hide anything, its no secret our network isnt the biggest etc...and we certainly play by a simple courtesy called business ethics.
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well
I just want to keep my mouth shut
I think I can't engage in sale's war, because I am not, I don't either gain or lose when a customer sign any provider, but just need to learn what respect is
frankly, I have been travelling around recently, if I say T-Mobile doesn't have "hole", I'm lying, but I never say that, perhaps I am lucky I am living in NYC, that ALL providers have decent reception
I used to have 2 providers at a time (Verizon and T-Mobile), and I use the former as primary, when the latter I use for internet, but after travelling many places, I give away Verizon, because Verizon is not much better, then I stick with Tmo
the CS generally is nice, even I beat them down by some question they don't know
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listen bizkits i do appreciate your advice i really do but im still a disgruntled customer who has the right to speak his mind. im just letting horko know that t mobile treated me like trash and i dunno might treat him like trash too. and if you want to talk about backing up my facts just let horko check the maps that is what im arguing im just saying the new cingular has more coverage than tmobile.
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horko
Dec 4, 2004, 12:14 AM
actually, i've checked the coverage maps and all that, which is why i simply wanted to know if anyone knew anything about how - technically speaking - t-mobile's network fared INDOORS when compared to others, primarily, in this case, sprint.
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horko said:
actually, I've checked the coverage maps and all that, which is why i simply wanted to know if anyone knew anything about how - technically speaking - t-mobile's network fared INDOORS when compared to others, primarily, in this case, sprint.
In all honesty, horko, that question is difficult if not impossible to answer without actually trying it. Different factors contribute to how a phone will work indoors. A lower frequency has less interference with penetrating structures and obstructions. However, thats not saying higher frequencies don't. They do, and very often at that. NO respectable, legitimate carrier will guarantee it's service indoors. We can give you all the maps, and tools to research...
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Aleq
Jan 13, 2005, 4:00 PM
FWIW, inside our building it's fairly difficult to get signal with any carrier, and we have all different carriers represented. Sprint users seem to be the most p.o.'d about the lack of coverage, TMobile and VZW are about neck and neck, with TMo getting the slight edge due to the spiffy expensive phones everybody gets. AT&T users seem to be just generally ticked off all the time anyway, so maybe they are just more vocal about not being able to make their calls, hard to tell. Inside my house, I wasn't able to use my VZW phone in the bedroom for the full three years I had service with them, and my friends who have VZW can't call each other when they're sitting in my living room, they have to go out front. I lend them my phone if they need ...
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cool, no prob here. I as well am a consumer and have my own disgrunteled opinions of some companies who I felt have done me wrong, and I think this is a great place to voice opinions, and hold conversations with others directly related to a common topic I have great interest in. I used to work for cingular. I think they are a good company, have a good product to offer, but personally as an employee they ran me over with a tractor, mistakingly planted me instead of a tree upside down in the dirt and the day I finally had enough and quit was escorted to my car with a cardboard box. Many others followed. I then got hired with AWS as an indirect sales assistant regional supervisor. For 2 weeks I drove from chatanooga to memphis from nashville to...
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yeah bizcuits thanks its all in the discussion no problems here 😁 thanks for the advise. i know t mobile has never flaunted with saying that they had the biger network but they do advertise the most whenever minutes but they dont offer unlimited n&w starting @ 7pm with those minutes if they offered all those whenever minutes with free n&w starting @ 7pm that would be a deal. me personally i use more that 5000min most of them after 7pm. so the whenever minutes would run out. jus giving my 2 cents. 😎
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there ya go then 🙂 You use the phone after 7, it works for ya. However, lets compare 2 plans...
lets start out at $39.99...it seems to be a popular price industry wide...(no promo's included...just standard plans)
T-Mobile: 600 whenever, unl nights (at 9) and unl weekends.
Cingular: 450 whenever (w/ rollover) 5000 nights (at 9) and unl weekends, and unl M2M (nationwide)
Now, I can't find it on your website, and I'm not going to call lol, but you DO have to pay extra for nights to start at 7, last I knew it was $7/month. I did however find http://www.cingular.com/customer_service/comm on_questions
Anytime Minutes: Anytime refers to package minutes included in your plan that can be used 24 hours a day.
Peak/Off-Peak: Peak and Off-Peak...
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...and no fridays free 🙂
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mr_know_it_all said:
yeah bizcuits thanks its all in the discussion no problems here 😁 thanks for the advise. i know t mobile has never flaunted with saying that they had the biger network but they do advertise the most whenever minutes but they dont offer unlimited n&w starting @ 7pm with those minutes if they offered all those whenever minutes with free n&w starting @ 7pm that would be a deal. me personally i use more that 5000min most of them after 7pm. so the whenever minutes would run out. jus giving my 2 cents. 😎
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national coverage is a big deal?
your personal coverage is the most important to you, you have to find it out yourself, nobody else can convice you, you have to check it out
if you found all providers' coverage are similar, then find one you're happy with
you're using provider's service, you're boss, why don't get an employee you like the most?
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Call T-Mobile, they are very nice people. They can do a personal coverage check and tell you whether the coverage is good where you are. They have very detailed maps and can get down to addresses. Give it a shot.
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Look, here it is, T-mobile works of 1900 spectrum, which is a great for general use or when there is a large population of towers in the area. att/cingular works off of a 850 spectrum also which has a better building penetration, lower the spectrum better the building penetration. I work for an indirect dealer who sells both carriers, and i have t-mobile(which works in 95% of the areas i am in) but it is the customer service that i love. Cingular's CS sucks in my opinion. Also, rumors i have heard from my t-mobile rep and through the grapevine is that t-moibile is lookin into addin a 850 or 900 spectrum to add additional coverage on top of the additional licenses they will most likely gain at the end of this month in the auction.
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JtMo55 said:
Also, rumors i have heard from my t-mobile rep and through the grapevine is that t-moibile is lookin into addin a 850 or 900 spectrum to add additional coverage on top of the additional licenses they will most likely gain at the end of this month in the auction.
You evidently were listening to rumors from someone who does not know what they are talking about. T-Mobile cannot have "850" spectrum unless they buy a cellular provider. It's unlikely that they're going to buy either cingular or Verizon which are the two major cellular operators in the US. As far as 900 that will *never* happen since 900 is not used for mobile communications anywhere in the US or Canada.
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