what happened to Sony's?
I'm probably late to the party, but I just noticed that tmob doesn't have one sony on it's list of phones. When and why did this happen?
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The last Sony-Ericsson we had on T-Mo.com was the T610. We have since sold them out of stock and for reasons unknown at this time. It is from my own personal experience of talking with customers and using those handsets that I believe we no longer have Sony-Ericsson because T-Mobile has not had good luck with their product. Hopefully they can redeem themselves and put out a good phone sometime soon.
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SE has put out some good phones recently. You just have to take a look at the TMO UK site. Seems like TMO USA is a little slow on picking up new phones. Pity.
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You make a good point. It's not fair for us Americans to get everything "downwind" of the European market. But, I guess it can be flipped around and taken as a testing ground so we dont get the bottom of the barrel products.
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But we DO get the bottom the barrel. look at Nokia's handset section! Most of them are not available in the US.
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yeah it's insane what they have overseas! We are way behind the times in that aspect. I wonder how all that is regulated??
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Here is a little education for you. We get the phones last because our standards are HIGHER than the more laissez-faire climate overseas. The FCC has thresholds that need to be met and T-Mobile has even higher thresholds that need to be met and Sonys (which suck reception wise) have yet to peak over the bar we set. Thats why there are no sonys in the line up at the current time. Secondly the phones that show up on Ebay and such before we get them here are called "beta" versions meaning they are the test run before we get them because Americans want everything to work perfectly and Europeans and Asians just want to have the newest handsets. Boo yah!
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nextgwireless said:Well, tell us something...if this is the c...
Here is a little education for you. We get the phones last because our standards are HIGHER than the more laissez-faire climate overseas. The FCC has thresholds that need to be met and T-Mobile has even higher thresholds that need to be met and Sonys (which suck reception wise) have yet to peak over the bar we set. Thats why there are no sonys in the line up at the current time. Secondly the phones that show up on Ebay and such before we get them here are called "beta" versions meaning they are the test run before we get them because Americans want everything to work perfectly and Europeans and Asians just want to have the newest handsets. Boo yah!
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muchdrama said:I don't think Sony Ericssons suck reception-wise...I think GSM networks aren't up to par here in the States.
You say tomayto, I say tomahto... 🙄
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Aleq said:muchdrama said:I don't think Sony Ericssons suck reception-wise...I think GSM networks aren't up to par here in the States.
You say tomayto, I say tomahto... 🙄Go check out the networks in Europe...you won't being saying toMAHto, then.
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Sony Ericsson's don't ALL suck for reception... the T300 was one of the worst phones ever, and the T610 was a good phone that had a couple of problems, including slightly weak reception. However, the reception on that phone wasn't nearly as bad as everybody said; the signal meter was just a little pessimistic. And the Z600 IS a great phone, and it gets excellent reception here in the states too. I have sold a couple of unlocked ones that I got my hands on, and I'm still thinking about picking up another one for myself. T-Mobile was stupid not to pick that one up in the US, in my opinion.
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muchdrama said:
Go check out the networks in Europe...you won't being saying toMAHto, then.
So I should uproot myself, move to another country where I don't speak the language, in order to experience the full joys of a phone I don't care about? My point is that it's a moot point how good or bad European networks are, we are not in Europe and different rules apply. Besides, the entirety of Europe is the size of a pocket handkerchief relative to the square mileage of the US, I would EXPECT it all to be blanketed with signal--anything else would be counterintuitive. Now take all of Europe's network and try to cover the US with it, and I bet it won't be so stellar.
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Aleq said:muchdrama said:
Go check out the networks in Europe...you won't being saying toMAHto, then.
So I should uproot myself, move to another country where I don't speak the language, in order to experience the full joys of a phone I don't care about? My point is that it's a moot point how good or bad European networks are, we are not in Europe and different rules apply. Besides, the entirety of Europe is the size of a pocket handkerchief relative to the square mileage of the US, I would EXPECT it all to be blanketed with signal--anything else would be counterintuitive. Now take all of Europe's network and try to cover the US with it, and I bet it won't be so stellar.(continues)
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No, actually I was referring to the fact that one person stated that the Ericssons had crummy reception on our networks, and you then stated that the phone was fine, it was the network at fault because the Ericsson works well in Europe. Regardless, the Ericssons are not the best reception-wise on USA GSM network, no matter how good it might be on a European one. Hence, tomayto-tomahto. It doesn't matter how good it is in one place if it doesn't work well in another--after all, a smelly nuisance in a barn is valuable fertilizer once you truck it out to the back forty.
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Well, a big thing about this is that Sony-Ericsson gives us the bottom of the barrel phones... If the same phones they offered the rest of the world were in the US then Sony wouldn't have such a bad rep... The thing is though that the US hasn't been considered a top market amongst manufacturers for quite sometime... it hasn't been until recently that Manufacturers have started looking at the US market in a new light...
You're right to say that comparing the European Network and US networks really doesn't matter in the US market... Mostly to do with different implementations... BUT muchdrama is also right in the fact that Sony phones have outperformed some more popular US models in other countries and that they get a bad rap simply because...
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You're right to say that comparing the European Network and US networks really doesn't matter in the US market... Mostly to do with different implementations... BUT muchdrama is also right in the fact that Sony phones have outperformed some more popular US models in other countries and that they get a bad rap simply because...
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Well, a big thing about this is that Sony-Ericsson gives us the bottom of the barrel phones... If the same phones they offered the rest of the world were in the US then Sony wouldn't have such a bad rep... The thing is though that the US hasn't been considered a top market amongst manufacturers for quite sometime... it hasn't been until recently that Manufacturers have started looking at the US market in a new light...
You're right to say that comparing the European Network and US networks really doesn't matter in the US market... Mostly to do with different implementations... BUT muchdrama is also right in the fact that Sony phones have outperformed some more popular US models in other countries and that t
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you may not believe it
ONLY NYC subway don't have cellular repeating (unable to use phone underground)
ONLY NYC subway don't have cellular repeating (unable to use phone underground)
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😁 I know I live in NYC! Some stations have reception. Are you from NYC, if not how do you like it?
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Fulton (4, 5 only)
42th Street Port Authority (A, C, E only)
Times Square (S only)
42th Street Port Authority (A, C, E only)
Times Square (S only)
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speck said:Oddly enough, yes...I got full reception while in various subways around Europe. The GSM networks over there are tremendous.
Was it full bars in trhe subway? 😁
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