T-Mobile USA is doing GREAT
T-Mobile USA is doing more than great, and it is considered one of the most succesful branches among the others in Europe as mensioned in the T-Mobile international website.
That means no selling, no mergers. Vodafone and T-Mobile are rivals, how could they merge???? its like saying Pepsi is gonna merge with Coke. Plus Vodafone already owns Verizon which is wierd since verizon is the only CDMA Vodafone network.
That means no selling, no mergers. Vodafone and T-Mobile are rivals, how could they merge???? its like saying Pepsi is gonna merge with Coke. Plus Vodafone already owns Verizon which is wierd since verizon is the only CDMA Vodafone network.
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dorisall said:
T-Mobile USA is doing more than great, and it is considered one of the most succesful branches among the others in Europe as mensioned in the T-Mobile international website.
That means no selling, no mergers. Vodafone and T-Mobile are rivals, how could they merge???? its like saying Pepsi is gonna merge with Coke. Plus Vodafone already owns Verizon which is wierd since verizon is the only CDMA Vodafone network.
Where to begin.....
First of all there is no talk of a Merge. Its a buyout. Vodafone can buy out T-Mobile USA. Its like if Pepsi bought Barq's Rootbeer (A Coke product)
Simple enough.
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It would make sense for Vodafone to sell their portion of Verizon and sink it into T-Mo. That might be a good thing for T-Mo, too, as the transition from VoiceStream to DT/T-Mo really sucked. The Germans sucked the fun right out of the company. Might the Brit's be more fun? At least they have Monty Python (well, had).
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I think Vodaphone's precense in the US via their very own compoany would be brilliant. Vodaphone really knows how to work a company too, look what they've helped make of Verizon.
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they arent doing good actually.
why?
1. terrible coverage areas
2. no 3g spectrum
3. no 3g network
4. no high speed data.
5. 18 million vs 45+ million....
if voda were to buy out tmobile, which they wont, they would sell their share in verizon. no point to of course since verizon wireless is more profitable then tmobile...
3g spectrum and a 3g network would be atleast 3-6 billion each... so thats about 6-12 billion dollars just on that alone, plus they have to increase capex for their lack of coverage...
its not worth it for voda, thats why DT is selling becuase they know that its not good either.
why?
1. terrible coverage areas
2. no 3g spectrum
3. no 3g network
4. no high speed data.
5. 18 million vs 45+ million....
if voda were to buy out tmobile, which they wont, they would sell their share in verizon. no point to of course since verizon wireless is more profitable then tmobile...
3g spectrum and a 3g network would be atleast 3-6 billion each... so thats about 6-12 billion dollars just on that alone, plus they have to increase capex for their lack of coverage...
its not worth it for voda, thats why DT is selling becuase they know that its not good either.
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https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
Also, T-Mobile has coverage in many places Nextel doesn't. Cingular does not have 3G yet either, they are just starting to deploy it and are at least 1 year behind Verizon.
Also, T-Mobile has coverage in many places Nextel doesn't. Cingular does not have 3G yet either, they are just starting to deploy it and are at least 1 year behind Verizon.
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but cingular is in the process of it.. they actually have spectrum for it.. they have a very good coverage area. they have a very good data arpu. Tmobile has nothing....
thats the point!!!
thats the point!!!
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T-Mobile doesn't have "nothing." They are making money, and percentage-wise, growing faster than any other carrier. They also have great customer service and offer more minutes than other carriers for a lower cost. People wouldn't sign up with them if they weren't doing something right, or offered services people liked.
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yes, they have nothing...
1. no 3g spectrum
2. no 3g network
3. 18 million vs 45 million subs
4. lack of a great network..
now what? they have nothing...
making money? well DT bought them for about 47.2 billion dollars and want to sell them for 25-30 billion... DT LOSTTTT money in tmobile NOT GAIIIINN money as you think they did.
4 years later they went down from 47.2 billion to 25-30 billion and DT wants to sell them? its a bad sign that DT wants to sell a "They are making money, and percentage-wise, growing faster than any other carrier." as you claim.
1. no 3g spectrum
2. no 3g network
3. 18 million vs 45 million subs
4. lack of a great network..
now what? they have nothing...
making money? well DT bought them for about 47.2 billion dollars and want to sell them for 25-30 billion... DT LOSTTTT money in tmobile NOT GAIIIINN money as you think they did.
4 years later they went down from 47.2 billion to 25-30 billion and DT wants to sell them? its a bad sign that DT wants to sell a "They are making money, and percentage-wise, growing faster than any other carrier." as you claim.
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You already stated that.
"Deutsche Telekom AG has no intention of selling its US mobile phone unit T-Mobile USA, German daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported, citing unnamed sources close to the management and supervisory boards." - https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=5&fi=315787
So, satisfied customers means having nothing?
They are rolling out EDGE now, and are planning on rolling out 3G but don't believe it is strategic to do so at this time. They have also allocated about $5 billion for spectrum, and more users as a percentage of users purchase data through T-Mobile than other carriers.
"Deutsche Telekom AG has no intention of selling its US mobile phone unit T-Mobile USA, German daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported, citing unnamed sources close to the management and supervisory boards." - https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=5&fi=315787
So, satisfied customers means having nothing?
They are rolling out EDGE now, and are planning on rolling out 3G but don't believe it is strategic to do so at this time. They have also allocated about $5 billion for spectrum, and more users as a percentage of users purchase data through T-Mobile than other carriers.
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they are denying it.. of course.. i belive sprint and nextel denied that they were "talking" and same with cingular and att wireless as well as voda getting in.. it means nothing....
again, tmobile has nothing... sorry.
that article was at 07.05.2005, 04:25 AM , while i see another article at 6:35 PM ET July 5, 2005 that says otherwise....
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?sourc ... »
"Deutsche Telekom (DT: news, chart, profile) recently told investors it expects to reach a decision by December. See full story. "
again, tmobile has nothing... sorry.
that article was at 07.05.2005, 04:25 AM , while i see another article at 6:35 PM ET July 5, 2005 that says otherwise....
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?sourc ... »
"Deutsche Telekom (DT: news, chart, profile) recently told investors it expects to reach a decision by December. See full story. "
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Right, it's all a conspiracy isn't it. Since you seem to know the future, could you tell me what the lottery numbers will be this week?
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lol... i dont know the future, but i have common sense to weigh the pros and cons and since the cons outweigh the pros and voda is a very good and smart company (ie their mgmt) they wont make a dumb mistake.
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OH NOS FOR NO 3G, how many people actually use there phones for internet?! STFU already, tmobile is a great company for voice, with great reps, that is still continiously getting more and more users, sure it may not be the best on the block now, it may never be, but give it time. Not all people care if their provider has 3g. That is YOUR only point, that and that they have less spectrum, how many people actually go to the middle of nowhere?! It makes more sense to have reception where people actually live.
/end rant
[sorry had to do it, this guy bugs the crap out of me] and BTW i have nothing to do with tmobile, just a normal cellular customer.
/end rant
[sorry had to do it, this guy bugs the crap out of me] and BTW i have nothing to do with tmobile, just a normal cellular customer.
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how people people use their phone for the internet? lol a lot.. look at the data arpu of the cellular companies.. 2-6 bucks/month. that means people are using data applications such as the web and things of that nature. data arpu has been increasing which shows more people are using it too.
according to qualcomm's web site 184 million subscribers worldwide uses 3g cdma. so far, only 14 million people worldwide uses ev-do. 142 million people uses 1x and finally 27 million uses wcdma/umts.. thus; it shows people are using data as well.
actually its all about data soon, especially becuase this market is becoming saturated that data arpu will be extremly important!
great for voice? well again, its not about voice anymore, its ab...
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according to qualcomm's web site 184 million subscribers worldwide uses 3g cdma. so far, only 14 million people worldwide uses ev-do. 142 million people uses 1x and finally 27 million uses wcdma/umts.. thus; it shows people are using data as well.
actually its all about data soon, especially becuase this market is becoming saturated that data arpu will be extremly important!
great for voice? well again, its not about voice anymore, its ab...
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It's not that they don't believe it is strategic to roll out a 3G network at this time, it is just flat out that they can't. Period.
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47.2 billion???
"Deutsche Telekom spent $35 billion to acquire T-Mobile USA, then known as VoiceStream, at the height of the frenzy over telecommunications assets in 2001."
"Deutsche Telekom spent $35 billion to acquire T-Mobile USA, then known as VoiceStream, at the height of the frenzy over telecommunications assets in 2001."
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35 billion? i saw it said 47.2 billion in another article..
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?sourc ... »
Deutsche Telekom acquired T-Mobile USA, then called Voicestream, in 2001 for $47.2 billion.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?sourc ... »
Deutsche Telekom acquired T-Mobile USA, then called Voicestream, in 2001 for $47.2 billion.
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nextel18 said:
they arent doing good actually.
why?
1. terrible coverage areas
2. no 3g spectrum
3. no 3g network
4. no high speed data.
5. 18 million vs 45+ million....
if voda were to buy out tmobile, which they wont, they would sell their share in verizon. no point to of course since verizon wireless is more profitable then tmobile...
3g spectrum and a 3g network would be atleast 3-6 billion each... so thats about 6-12 billion dollars just on that alone, plus they have to increase capex for their lack of coverage...
its not worth it for voda, thats why DT is selling becuase they know that its not good either.
Dude! You copied and pasted this from another forum? Come up with something ...
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T-Mobile is doing great, if:
Being the smallest national carrier is a good thing. If making 103 million in 1Q 2005 is a good thing. If Providing the slowest data speeds of any GSM network in USA is a good thing. If putting your wireless unit in a garage sale is a good thing.
It is scary when the company you work for is considering selling, but be realistic, T-Mobile, USA- is not doing well.
Being the smallest national carrier is a good thing. If making 103 million in 1Q 2005 is a good thing. If Providing the slowest data speeds of any GSM network in USA is a good thing. If putting your wireless unit in a garage sale is a good thing.
It is scary when the company you work for is considering selling, but be realistic, T-Mobile, USA- is not doing well.
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