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homeslice5484

Jul 8, 2005, 8:42 PM
What do you think the chances of a buyout are? I dont want to go back to T-Mobile if they end up becoming a part of Cingular whom I am leaving.
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terryjohnson16

Jul 8, 2005, 11:24 PM
They will not be going to Cingular.
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homeslice5484

Jul 8, 2005, 11:26 PM
What is this Vodafone company? Ive never heard of them. I hope if they do they go to a company that increases the coverage area.
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terryjohnson16

Jul 8, 2005, 11:28 PM
They are a European company. The are rivals with T-Mobile in Europe, just like how T-Mobile US is rivals with Cingular for customers.
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homeslice5484

Jul 8, 2005, 11:33 PM
ohhh ok, sorry im not well educated in this mobile company stuff, i just pay the monthly bill haha. I just wonder what will end up happening and who will buy them and if they will increase coverage.
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terryjohnson16

Jul 8, 2005, 11:39 PM
Right now, T-Mobile needs spectrum to increast coverage. Thats why they have to sign roaming agreements with other carriers especially 850MHz carriers so that T-Mobile US can have more rural coverage. In 2007, T-Mobile US, is suppose to bid for spectrum so that they can increase their coverage, and start offering 3G-type services like all the other US carriers are doing now. When they start offering 3G services, they might offer video calling, wireless TV service from Mobi-Tv, and many other music services since the network will he able to handle it.
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homeslice5484

Jul 8, 2005, 11:49 PM
ok so if they have roaming agreements with Cingular and I roam on Cingulars network, do I pay roaming fees or no? I love T-Mobile I just wish they had more coverage, id rather them stay independent and expand but if they must merge or be bought, i hope its a new company who will expand while providing the same level of cust service and prices.
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terryjohnson16

Jul 8, 2005, 11:55 PM
If you have a Nationwide plan, then you won't have to pay roaming fees as long as you are with-in the national areas. Roaming is free if you a nationwide plan and you travel within the US, and Alaska, Hawaii, and I think Puerto Rico. Outside of these area, you will be paying roaming fees plus minute usuage will be taken from you if calling during peak(weekdays) (7am-8:59pm) times.
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homeslice5484

Jul 9, 2005, 12:00 AM
so if i go to an area where T-Mobile doesnt have a lot of coverage but cingular does, will my phone switch automatically to cingular, or do i have to manually do it? and if it roams in the USA i dont pay for those roaming charges on other networks? Sorry.
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terryjohnson16

Jul 9, 2005, 12:04 AM
You will only be able to roam on another carriers network if T-Mobile has a roaming agreement with them. It costs T-Mobile money when you roam onto another carriers network. If you have a regional plan, and travel outside of your regional coverage area, you will pay roaming charges. But, if you have a national plan, then you don't have to worry, as long as you are in the US digital coverage area.
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homeslice5484

Jul 9, 2005, 12:07 AM
ok thanks for all your help. Im porting back to T-Mobile I think and I will be on that National 600 plan. I dont leave my home area so roaming isnt an issue right now, but wanted to get info incase it ever comes up. Thanks for your help!! πŸ™‚
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terryjohnson16

Jul 9, 2005, 12:17 AM
Go for the 1000 minute plan if you need extra minutes. What area are u in?
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homeslice5484

Jul 9, 2005, 12:22 AM
Niagara Falls, New York. I only use about 350 minutes on Cingular now.
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terryjohnson16

Jul 9, 2005, 12:24 AM
wow. ok. If you ever decided to come to T-Mobile, they have:
http://www.t-mobile.com/plans/?tab=national »

I am in NY, but in the famous NYC.
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homeslice5484

Jul 9, 2005, 12:26 AM
i saw that 1000 minute plan, but id rather save the money and add text messaging if i need it. I hate paying 10 cents per msg at cingular.

Do you work for T-Mobile?

I have a dumb question for you.

3.35" x 1.77" x 0.94" Thats the specs on the Nokia Phone.

3.30" x 1.80" x 0.80" that is my samsung e317

what is the .80 part of it...looks like the nokia is pretty much the same size as what i have.
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terryjohnson16

Jul 9, 2005, 12:30 AM
No, I do not work for T-Mobile. I am just a loyal customer that has been with them for 3 years. I wish I did work for them.

It is similar to your Samsung phone. The .80" is part of the height. Its barely noticable. You are not going to see any difference in the dimensions., since they are really close in length, width, and height.
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homeslice5484

Jul 9, 2005, 12:32 AM
good, i havent used a nokia since my 3360 TDMA. Ive had samsung every since.

So ive got the Nokia flip, samsung e335,720, and 730 to choose from now.

Maybe I will give the Nokia a shot, ill have to wait till i can see it at the store and test it out and watch for the reviews on these phones, dont want to get one and regret it like Cingular, cause lord knows I get no service in my house and my phone is horrible.

Thanks for your help, im sure I will have more questions again hopefully your still around.
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terryjohnson16

Jul 9, 2005, 12:39 AM
Ok. 😁
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danielson

Jul 12, 2005, 10:44 PM
get the 1000 minute plan. it's the same price as the 600 min plan!! 39.99
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terryjohnson16

Jul 12, 2005, 11:12 PM
I already have the $45.99 plan with 1000 minutes and unlimited night and weekends. Thanks for the update. I am just looking for a nice phone.
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 9, 2005, 5:42 PM
homeslice5484 said:
so if i go to an area where T-Mobile doesnt have a lot of coverage but cingular does, will my phone switch automatically to cingular, or do i have to manually do it? and if it roams in the USA i dont pay for those roaming charges on other networks? Sorry.


Generally but not always if a carrier has coverage in an area poor coverage is not enough reason to be able to use another network. In any case you can only roam if your carrier has a roaming agreement with another network. If there is no roaming agreement you simply cannot roam on that network. When you use another network your carrier has to pay a roaming fee to that carrier so if they don't have to pay it they generally willnot.
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guitarman21

Jul 12, 2005, 9:00 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you had to pay extra for Alaska.
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Aleq

Jul 12, 2005, 9:58 AM
You're wrong--nationwide includes Alaska, and we do have a roaming partner up there. πŸ˜‰
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terryjohnson16

Jul 12, 2005, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the clarification.
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 9, 2005, 6:10 PM
homeslice5484 said:
What is this Vodafone company? Ive never heard of them. I hope if they do they go to a company that increases the coverage area.


Vodafone is the largest mobile operator in the world.
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nextel18

Jul 13, 2005, 9:56 AM
cingular wont buy them.. i think perhaps ntt docomo or one of those carriers out there, or perhaps a venture capilist firm, or a team of cable companies. vodafone wont bid for tmobile.

tmobile is lacking in many areas so i am not sure if whoever buys them will see a decent ROI, becuase DT hasnt.
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erguy

Jul 13, 2005, 1:09 PM
Hey Guys,
Rumor has it Alltel may make an offer for T-Mobile..... Interesting. Seems though T-Mobile might want to quell these rumors since most of the proposed suitors for a potential buyout would most likely result in a lot of churn.
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nextel18

Jul 13, 2005, 1:18 PM
Hmm. i didnt even think about that. They just got through a merger though of western wireless, will the FCC, and the DOJ allow them to purchase another one? The merger with western wireless and Alltel they had to do many divestitures, what happens if Alltel does buy tmobile, will there be more divestitures at a point where it’s not smart to merge?

I think there would be a lot of increasing of churn and therefore loss of customers just because tmobile USA is lacking in many products.

I am not sure that they would be a good investment to big companies because like I mentioned they have a lack of a great product, their network is not that great, they don’t have 3g spectrum and a 3g network. I am not sure if companies who want to buy the...
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guitarman21

Jul 13, 2005, 5:24 PM
Alltel is smaller than T-Mobile. I don't see this happening, also they are CDMA.
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erguy

Jul 13, 2005, 7:02 PM
This is exactly the reason why Alltel would buy T-Mobile. This would push them up significantly among the other wireless providers. Not sure that the non-compatible technologies is such and issue ie CDMA/GSM. Look at Sprint/Nextel CDMA/I-DEN.... Food for thought. My concern is with all this speculation there will be a lot of churn with T-Mobile and therefore make them less attractive to a potential buyer as there subcriber base dwindles.
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 13, 2005, 10:44 PM
erguy said:
This is exactly the reason why Alltel would buy T-Mobile. This would push them up significantly among the other wireless providers. Not sure that the non-compatible technologies is such and issue ie CDMA/GSM. Look at Sprint/Nextel CDMA/I-DEN.... Food for thought. My concern is with all this speculation there will be a lot of churn with T-Mobile and therefore make them less attractive to a potential buyer as there subcriber base dwindles.


Sprint-Nextel with iDen is only temporary. There is supposed to be a CDMA solution for a data path upgrade for Nextel. Of course there will have to be some major changes since Nextel is an SMR and is not really a true cellular service.
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erguy

Jul 14, 2005, 12:36 PM
Pointe taken, however if there were to be an Alltel buyout of T-Mobile I would speculate that they too would transition the T-Mobile subscribers to CDMA to adress the 3G issue. This of course would not be my ideal scenario as I am a very pleased T-Mobile customer,and I am quite satisfied with the quality and level of service I recieve from their GSM service. My hope is that the powers that be at T-Mobile choose to stay in the US market and step up to the plate to make the necessary upgrades to transition to 3G.
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daddydogg_00

Jul 14, 2005, 12:31 PM
Hey Nextel 18 I work for Alltel and T-Mobile and Alltel do not compete in many markets because T-Mobile has larger cities and Alltel has more rural and smaller markets. It would be a decent fit for Alltel despite the technology difference. The divestitures happen because the networks overlap and their will not be a whole lot of that. Alltel has the cash flow and financing to do it after the WW buyout happens. I personally would like to see it but I know many here will not. I am unsure about the conversion part but due to the little overlaps in networks it would give them more time to make it happen. Also Alltel is in the game with EVDO so they do have some highspeed to bring to the table. Like I said as an Alltel stock holder I would like t...
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erguy

Jul 14, 2005, 12:42 PM
Well said daddydog.. Agree totally. Just have some angst as to what the product from such a buyout might be.
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daddydogg_00

Jul 14, 2005, 3:46 PM
Well Alltel is a great company and T-Mobile definetly is an industry leader in a few things as well. Alltel is focusing on customer service which I will admit is T-Mobile's fortay. Now you combine a great network with a marginal network but one that does cover the major markets well and the peices will come together. Price wise some of Alltel's plans are not that much more than t-mobiles-hey 1000 minutes for 49.99 is still not bad. The major difference would be two year contracts. I think alltel's good management would be a plus for T-Mobile and the spectrum and reputation for T-Mobile would harmonize well. I think these two companies make more sense than some other suitors. And as a customer of both companies I would welcome it with op...
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