I too ordered a 7105 and have told my salesperson to put my order on hold, depending upon the outcome of this lawsuit as I might be changing carriers.

dscott7440 said:
I too ordered a 7105 and have told my salesperson to put my order on hold, depending upon the outcome of this lawsuit as I might be changing carriers.

But still though, based upon bdcd,s reply to the original poster's concern, he mentioned that e-mails were sent to him stating that T-Mobile wouldn't be effected and for that matter, nor would our service. I have already asked him questions about the e-mails he's received to verify and validate the genuinity of the information. I am still curious to see how he replies back.

Quite frankly, I do not think an entity as big as RIM Blackberry will go down the toilet like this especially due to an injunction of this magnitude. I'd think that...
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actually, if the injunction was to be enforced and there are no settlements rimm could be in a world of trouble.. 65%+ of their business (revenue) comes from the united states..

there was also a $450 million settlement back in the day, however, NTP decided not to go with it.. the judge can also enforce that settlement too making the injunction against them to be lifted and not to be enforced..

they do also have a few arguments, rimm that is, with not letting the injunction be enforced.. i have posted this on another forum and the url is; https://www.phonescoop.com/news/discuss.php?f m=m&ff=1472&fi=436680


remember, if the injunction just stands it is just for the united states and the local officials and the governemtn WILL NOT ...
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I went to my regular T-mo store today and had a little extra time and stopped by another T-mo store, both company stores. When talking with the sales agents about the lawsuit, they all played dumb and said they had not heard one thing about a lawsuit. Talked to two agents at one store and, what I found out was the manager, at another store. Same story both times. Wonder if this is company policy or were they just that much out of the loop so as to not know anything about their only PDA phone?

yea, all the carriers will play it down and basically say we dont know anything about this or what not.. i guess it is sorta speculation if the injunction to be actually enforced so the other carriers cant comment on it. (remember they dont comment on rumors..)

i would be very careful becuase the ruling could come within this week according to CNBC and my other sources.. i suggest waiting.

I am. Looks as if the judge is a little tired of having this case sitting in his court and is ready to move on.

yea.. time will only tell..

i hope nothing happens becuase i have a blackberry, but i will be shocked if rimm doesnt get anything settled since the united states market contributes 65% of revenues. it is a huge market for them. they do not have a chance outside united states becuase palm destroys them.

If Palm comes out with its promised Treo 700, I will be hard pressed to stay with my 7100t. I can't understand why Tmo doesn't move more into the phone/pda market place.

Yep, time will tell.

well you could also go with the motorola q and other things of that nature.. motorola and microsoft and palm will do well if rimm gets the injunction against them to stand.

well as we know tmobile focuses on customers who want a great amount of mins for cheap prices and they dont cater towards data or anything of that sort. perhaps thats why?

Hmmm, never thought of that. Minutes vs. cost was one reason I came to Tmo. However, my business is dictating I become more web mobile and dataphone available.

that is true, but that is what the tmobile demographics are.. if you notice their arpu isnt that high nor their data arpu, so they dont really focus too highly on data.

This doesn't have anything to do with the carrier, the lawsuit has to do with the company Research In Motion (RIM), who provides blackberries to all the cell phone companies.

exactly..

BDCD doesnt know anything, unfort.. if the injunction will be enforced tmobile, cingular, nextel/sprint, verizon, alltel and whatever other provider have blackberry will cease to exist.. the carriers have no say what-so-ever with this situation!!!

there will be a 90 day grace period though so people can scramble to get other communications.


hey, dont be so paranoid yet.. this just means there are 3 things that can happen now. 1. a settlement and rimm would pay more money. 2. the work around solution will be put onto the marketplace. and 3. there will be the injunction to be enforced..

as of right now i am telling people not to buy any rimm's blackberrys and if people have it make sure they have backups prepared..

nextel18 said:
BDCD doesnt know anything, unfort.. if the injunction will be enforced tmobile, cingular, nextel/sprint, verizon, alltel and whatever other provider have blackberry will cease to exist.. the carriers have no say what-so-ever with this situation!!!

there will be a 90 day grace period though so people can scramble to get other communications.


hey, dont be so paranoid yet.. this just means there are 3 things that can happen now. 1. a settlement and rimm would pay more money. 2. the work around solution will be put onto the marketplace. and 3. there will be the injunction to be enforced..

as of right now i am telling people not to buy any rimm's blackberrys and if people have it make sure they have

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i know some information with regards to the workaround solution, but obviously i can not say. (becuase they havnt)

just be aware before you purchase a blackberry that an injunction could be likely.

nextel18 said:
i know some information with regards to the workaround solution, but obviously i can not say. (becuase they havnt)

just be aware before you purchase a blackberry that an injunction could be likely.

😳 Dude,

All the news channels, both Cable (CNN, CNN HN, CNBC, MSNBC and FOX News) as well as the public non pay (CBS, ABC, FOX and NBC) are saying that the potential shut down could come within the next 2 weeks unless either the workaround from RIM's end is established and deployed for production usage or a settlement (potentially $1 Billion) is reached at. For all you realists and optimists, welcome to the reality of the situation to move forward. 🙄 Get over your denials right...
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lol.. obviously they would say that and it is a given, however, there are still those 3 options i mentioned earlier that could happen. if the injunction does happen there will be a 90 day period so if the injunction is ruled your blackberry, as well as mine, wont just be shut off.

yea, i know, but i highly doubt that... if they already had the work around they would have already put it in the system and then dont even care about this potential injunction that is against them becuase they would have that workaround solution..

what else do you think they would say? we have nothing? they are a publicly traded company.. they have to say anything to keep investors..


ntp just wants more money... obviously if rimm gets the injunction ntp wont get any money...

The whole thing is bs anyways. I hate how companies will wait years before filing any type of lawsuit just to try to increase how much money they'll get off of the suit.

yea that is a true statement. they actually sued rimm in 2001. (ntp that is)

the problem is, if you violate a patent and are found guilty of that you should be punished, however, in this case it is a bit different becuase many businesses, consumers and the government depend on the blackberry device. (in the united states) that is why the government is getting involved.

i say it is ok if the victor gets the money that is correct to give them, but not to close down something that is a "crackberry" and the hottest thing on the market and that everyone depends on.