? for the TMo faithful about 3G
When TMobile releases 3G what will be the band that 3G be delivered on. Will it be the 2100 band like Europe? Also, will TMobile skip UMTS and go straight to HSDPA or will they do UMTS and upgrade in a year or so after the initial release. I personally think that they won the auction b/c everybody else already has the spectrum that they need to offer whatever services they want. Hope this brings another solid competitor into wireless 3G so these high prices can come down. Also, what do you think they are gonna charge for unlimited data via laptop/pc card.
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You will not be able to use a 3G international phone with T-Mobile USA. They use different 3G bands.
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US 3G will not be compatible with European 3g as it iwll be different frequencies.
As for the thinking they've already won the auction because everyone already has what they need, that is also incorrect.
While many of the national cellcos already have what they need, there are a mixture of regional cellcos trying to expand (look at Metro PCS) and then you have the cable/satelite companies which are bidding for their future services.
While I think T-Mobile will bid heavy to walk away with what they need, there are a few companies who will be bidding heavy to get spectrum besides T-Mobile.
As for the thinking they've already won the auction because everyone already has what they need, that is also incorrect.
While many of the national cellcos already have what they need, there are a mixture of regional cellcos trying to expand (look at Metro PCS) and then you have the cable/satelite companies which are bidding for their future services.
While I think T-Mobile will bid heavy to walk away with what they need, there are a few companies who will be bidding heavy to get spectrum besides T-Mobile.
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please show some proof of what you are saying.or is it just opinion??? id like to read about it
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Well, it is likely that T-mobile will deploy their 3g on the bandwidth of 1.7 GHz and 2.1 GHz if they get enough of it, but they could also use their 1.9 GHz to complement it. It is difficult to say which one they will use because it depends on which one they will win after the auction is over. They seem to be doing pretty well in the auction but there are others who are doing quite well too with Comcast’s group, others and with Cingular. Do not say that they won the spectrum because there are other players there who would want the same spectrum T-mobile wants. You can look at the website to see how T-mobile is fairing in the auction and what provisional winnings they currently have in the areas, and you can also check out what the license n...
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I forgot to answer your other questions and concerns in which this post will address them.
I think T-Mobile USA will stick with EDGE for now until there is a newer version of UMTS and HSDPA. I do not think that you can skip UMTS to get to HSDPA.
I think they will charge around $50-75 per month comparable to the other carriers.
I think T-Mobile USA will stick with EDGE for now until there is a newer version of UMTS and HSDPA. I do not think that you can skip UMTS to get to HSDPA.
I think they will charge around $50-75 per month comparable to the other carriers.
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Thanks 18. I was hoping that if TMo won they would release their 3G at flea market rates. But as you said in the earlier post that TMo does not have it locked up and there are other serious bidders out there. I did not know that cable companies were bidding as well. What services would they use it for? They already run lines straight into customers home. Are they getting into the wireless business as well?
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Welcome. I do not think that they would release their price points below the market because it will cost a lot of money to build it out including the successful purchases of new spectrum that they need. So they must try to get a return on investment capital, however, they could perhaps do it lower than the market price and will force others to lower it. Sometimes that is a good thing, but sometimes it is a bad thing and it depends on the circumstances. T-Mobile has been known to go below industry, but with data, it is very difficult because they should try to maximize their investments and improve on their gross margins. Prices could come down, but they are very comparable as it is now, so I doubt that they will. Things can change obviously...
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Thanks for the breakdown. You are one of the few in here who know what they are talking about.
To another subject; with Sprint confirming they will use WiMax for 4G, is this the same technology that qchat will be on. Or is that going to be on the 1900 band b/c I think the news release said WiMax would be released in the 2.5 band. Also, what is going to happen to Boost Mobile once qchat comes along. Are they gonna keep IDEN for Boost only or are they gonna upgrade Boost into a AMP'D like service.
To another subject; with Sprint confirming they will use WiMax for 4G, is this the same technology that qchat will be on. Or is that going to be on the 1900 band b/c I think the news release said WiMax would be released in the 2.5 band. Also, what is going to happen to Boost Mobile once qchat comes along. Are they gonna keep IDEN for Boost only or are they gonna upgrade Boost into a AMP'D like service.
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Aww thanks.
No, Qchat will not be used with Wimax and will still be used on the REV A network slated for a release in 2008, however, that can be sooner, as Sprint has released that it will roll out to 40m customers by the end of this year. They should wait until the whole network is overlay with the REV A before deploying Qchat onto the market. Ev-do will be first used on the 1.9ghz band as it is now, and later on when they bring over Nextel’s 800mhz, they will put DO on that band also. Wimax can really be only used in the 2.5ghz spectrum. They are first going to deploy single band, WIMAX devices and then later they are going to deploy dual mode devices with both DO/WIMAX variation.
With Boost, that is a huge and big problem that cou...
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No, Qchat will not be used with Wimax and will still be used on the REV A network slated for a release in 2008, however, that can be sooner, as Sprint has released that it will roll out to 40m customers by the end of this year. They should wait until the whole network is overlay with the REV A before deploying Qchat onto the market. Ev-do will be first used on the 1.9ghz band as it is now, and later on when they bring over Nextel’s 800mhz, they will put DO on that band also. Wimax can really be only used in the 2.5ghz spectrum. They are first going to deploy single band, WIMAX devices and then later they are going to deploy dual mode devices with both DO/WIMAX variation.
With Boost, that is a huge and big problem that cou...
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So it is feasible to use EV-DO on 800mhz. I read in a wireless forum by a tech guy that it is not a good frequency to use for EV-DO and that is why it is deployed in 1.9mhz. I guess he was wrong.
So what will be some of the benefits of RevA over RevO. Will there be a big price increase over RevO (59.99). Also, is it a software upgrade like HSDPA is to UMTS or will new equipment have to be purchased and integrated into the current network.
So what will be some of the benefits of RevA over RevO. Will there be a big price increase over RevO (59.99). Also, is it a software upgrade like HSDPA is to UMTS or will new equipment have to be purchased and integrated into the current network.
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Yes, it is very feasible to use 800mhz frequency on EV-DO, and if I can recall correctly, Verizon uses 800mhz in many networks too and they do a dual 800/1.9ghz DO and non DO devices.
Well, he is right because it isn’t that great to put it on 800mhz because of a lot of “interference” and a lot of users using that band which can pose difficulty, but with Nextel’s 800mhz that will be cleared of most or all of “interference” and in a contiguous block, there shouldn’t be any problems. (remember, Verizon does the dual 800/1900. previously mentioned) The good thing about 800mhz is that it has better propagation then 1.9ghz but you can use both to enhance the coverage better. Many companies that have EV-DO use 1.9ghz more because the more ...
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Well, he is right because it isn’t that great to put it on 800mhz because of a lot of “interference” and a lot of users using that band which can pose difficulty, but with Nextel’s 800mhz that will be cleared of most or all of “interference” and in a contiguous block, there shouldn’t be any problems. (remember, Verizon does the dual 800/1900. previously mentioned) The good thing about 800mhz is that it has better propagation then 1.9ghz but you can use both to enhance the coverage better. Many companies that have EV-DO use 1.9ghz more because the more ...
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here is pretty simple answer:
you can't use International UMTS device on future TMUS AWS UMTS (different up/dn bands)
check fcc.gov, find auction 66, check fact sheet, then you'll see the up/dn frequency, they're TOTALLY different from International UMTS
if you're desperate to buy UMTS device overseas to use with TMUS UMTS, you need to wait till UMTS device with AWS support (this should be dual band: International/AWS UMTS; or quad band: 850/1900/AWS/International UMTS) is released
you can't use International UMTS device on future TMUS AWS UMTS (different up/dn bands)
check fcc.gov, find auction 66, check fact sheet, then you'll see the up/dn frequency, they're TOTALLY different from International UMTS
if you're desperate to buy UMTS device overseas to use with TMUS UMTS, you need to wait till UMTS device with AWS support (this should be dual band: International/AWS UMTS; or quad band: 850/1900/AWS/International UMTS) is released
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Why do we have to make everything different and hard ???? why not use the regular internationaly agreed on UMTS frequancy ? Why use the old prehistoric british system of measurement and not metric?? Why CDMA and not GSM ???? Everything has to be the opposite, I am surprised they didnt do the right side driver's seat hear in the US.
I just got a N95 an apparently there is no way to use the 3G features on it here, or on any of the GOOD phones that will come out unless they support both bands.
I just got a N95 an apparently there is no way to use the 3G features on it here, or on any of the GOOD phones that will come out unless they support both bands.
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T-Mobile has no control over it
they wanted to use 1900 at least, but amount of spectrum prevents it
the only working solution is AWS, T-Mobile has no other choice
they wanted to use 1900 at least, but amount of spectrum prevents it
the only working solution is AWS, T-Mobile has no other choice
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updated answer
T3 (T-Mobile 3G) will opt for HSDPA out of the box
after deeper digging, found AWS band is same on downlink (node to phone), while the uplink uses DCS band
the initial rollout will be started from 4Q 2007 in Chicago and NYC, and several more markets as soon as early 1Q 2008, depends on the progress of "clean up" the band for AWS
T-Mobile may raise the pricing of unlimited broadband internet, the question is: will grandfathered internet users will have privilege to use HSDPA
T3 (T-Mobile 3G) will opt for HSDPA out of the box
after deeper digging, found AWS band is same on downlink (node to phone), while the uplink uses DCS band
the initial rollout will be started from 4Q 2007 in Chicago and NYC, and several more markets as soon as early 1Q 2008, depends on the progress of "clean up" the band for AWS
T-Mobile may raise the pricing of unlimited broadband internet, the question is: will grandfathered internet users will have privilege to use HSDPA
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