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Sprint/Nextel Hybrid Phone?

Snuggles

Sep 30, 2006, 9:12 PM
What is this, coming Nov 5th?
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StoreLead

Sep 30, 2006, 10:10 PM
yup. runs on the sprint voice network, and also the nextel network for the direct connect, and it's mil-spec.
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bkw212007

Sep 30, 2006, 10:49 PM
The only downside...what if you're in an area with iDEN coverage, and not CDMA? (I have several in my area.) Well, in that case, you can't make any voice calls. Too bad voice can't switch between iDEN and CDMA to whichever is stronger at the time...then it would be true dual-mode. But hey, it's the first one ever, so they have time to work on things like that.
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cellphonesaretools

Oct 1, 2006, 9:19 AM
The 210-page user manual is online at this FCC website:

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retri ... »

It seems to have most of the features Nextel users have come to know and love, but after a quick read I noticed two deficits:
1) Three-way calls charge you minutes for both connected calls (I'd. you're burning minutes at 2X normal rate when in a 3-way call). Nextel only dings you for 1X minutes when you initiate a 3-way call. Gee, thanks, Sprint! What a welcome for Nextel users.
2) The Profiles capability seems to be gone now; Nextel's Profiles feature was truly a great and useful feature, but from the user's manual it appears that the Nextel-like Profiles are gone; I hope I'm wron...
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bkw212007

Oct 1, 2006, 9:48 AM
Very cool...thanks! Yes, sucks about the 3-way calling, but I guess it makes sense since the calls are on Sprint's network.
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legacynrs4evr

Oct 1, 2006, 12:04 PM
The reason you cant make voice calls on iden network is because they are migrating voice and data off the iden network completely, and this is how they are doing it. Search about Sprint 800mhz reconfiguration. FCC bandwidth change will happen in a few years.

eventually the new walkie talkie system will start integratiing into new phones after the 4g network is released. Then iden will be gone completely shortly after that.
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StoreLead

Oct 1, 2006, 12:06 PM
and.... where'd you get that information? 🤨

because last i read in the playbook... iden isn't going anywhere.
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nextel18

Oct 2, 2006, 5:56 PM
He is wrong.
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bkw212007

Oct 1, 2006, 7:30 PM
And your source is???
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jareddude42

Oct 2, 2006, 2:29 PM
he just said the playbook. which is a sprint thing sent out on s.n.c for employees and is considered confidential so you might be careful when you quote your sources because one guy got in trouble by sprint for getting too close to the boundary as far as all that goes
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StoreLead

Oct 2, 2006, 8:36 PM
info i cited is meant for customer knowledge to answer these types of questions.
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jareddude42

Oct 2, 2006, 9:24 PM
k cool man just looking out he got in trouble i think by his rsm and stuff so i'm trying to look out
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StoreLead

Oct 5, 2006, 4:28 PM
yea, your cool.
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nextel18

Oct 2, 2006, 5:57 PM
he has no source since he is wrong.
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bkw212007

Oct 2, 2006, 9:42 PM
I read somewhere that the reason the dual-mode phone can't make voice calls on both networks is because they are having too much trouble making the billing system charge for both iDEN and CDMA calls from one phone, or something like that. But, it has nothing at all to do with phasing out iDEN. Yes, he is wrong.
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nextel18

Oct 4, 2006, 10:07 AM
The design was actually never meant it for that and one of the problems is what you mentioned but another would be capacity issues.
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StoreLead

Oct 2, 2006, 8:35 PM
wait... are you asking me what MY source is? i'm pretty sure i mentioned the playbook. in fact... i did. my source?

the playbook
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bkw212007

Oct 2, 2006, 9:43 PM
No, I was referring to legacynrs4evr.
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nextel18

Oct 2, 2006, 5:53 PM
They are not moving IDEN assets completely off the network- do not be silly and spreading such stupid rumors. The IDEN network though is starting to put some assets over to Sprint’s CDMA network though. During now and the 2008 timeframe we will see more of this situation go on.

You should re-search the ā€œconsensus planā€Ā because Sprint is not getting rid of all of their IDEN spectrum holdings.
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bkw212007

Oct 2, 2006, 9:49 PM
Yes...Nextel traded SOME 800 for some 1900. They are not trading ALL of their 800, like these people keep saying...iDEN is NOT going anywhere, folks!!!

In the 'consensus plan', Nextel funds the entire 800 reconfiguration. All this does is takes currently mixed Nextel and public safety frequencies and separates them into opposite ends of the band, thus eliminating the interference and solving the problem. It's not iDEN, in general, that's the problem...it's just the frequencies it is currently on!

Right?
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nextel18

Oct 4, 2006, 10:04 AM
Close enough. šŸ™‚

I wanted to also say that Nextel after the consensus plan is finished they will have a contiguous block in the 800 MHz and then in the 1.9 GHz band.

Therefore, they will be giving 800MHz but also receiving some to form that contiguous block. As you know, a contiguous block can do a lot more than a non- contiguous one.
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nextel18

Oct 2, 2006, 5:55 PM
Yea, that is a good point, but if it doesn’t work then wait till they have the correct dual mode you are looking for. Since they don’t have it and this one wont suit you don’t get it.
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winthropguy

Oct 1, 2006, 10:42 AM
I work for Sprint and can tell you, this phone is a great first step for Sprint/Nextel because it combines the most powerful features from both networks. As for coverage, you'll still get reception in an iDen network area, they'll just be treated as a roaming voice call (not to worry, though - Sprint/Nextel's plans include roaming or include an additional option to cover roaming costs). It's already in the pipeline to eventually combine the two networks, it's just taking a lot of time - the upgrades required to produce phones that work on both networks are immense.
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Argonnj

Oct 1, 2006, 2:18 PM
As for coverage, you'll still get reception in an iDen network area, they'll just be treated as a roaming voice call

Wrong, iden for direct connect only. CDMA for voice and data. No CDMA coverage=no voice coverage.
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bkw212007

Oct 1, 2006, 7:28 PM
Yeah, If you need to contact someone that doesn't have Nextel, and you're not in CDMA coverage, you're screwed.
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Argonnj

Oct 1, 2006, 8:26 PM
Fortunately there is better nationwide CDMA coverage then there is iden.
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southwestcomm

Oct 1, 2006, 8:39 PM
Not on 1900 MHz. The hybrid phones do not have 800 MHz. iDEN is just as large as CDMA 1900 MHz.
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Argonnj

Oct 2, 2006, 4:07 PM
Are you sure. As far as I know iden is still on and will continue on 800 while all voice and data will be shifted to 1900.
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nextel18

Oct 2, 2006, 5:59 PM
Southwest is wrong, because the hybrid will have 800 MHz IDEN on it.

Southwest is wrong, because the hybrid will have 800 MHz IDEN on it. Voice and data will be on the Sprint’ 1.9 GHz spectrum.

I do not understand after being gone how much information given on here is wrong.
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southwestcomm

Oct 2, 2006, 7:34 PM
I never said anything about iDEN. I said CDMA will be 1900 only. Of course iDEN will be 800 - they don't use 1900. Geesh......
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nextel18

Oct 4, 2006, 10:09 AM
Nice! Congratz!
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cellphonesaretools

Oct 3, 2006, 12:42 AM
The links I posted yesterday pointing to Motorola's FCC applications for approval for the ic502 clearly show that the phone is intended to use CDMA1900 for cell calls, iDEN for PTT and also Moto-Talk (for off-network Direct Talk, I assume). On page four of the FCC report called "RF EXPOSURE 1", section 3.0 "Device Under Test", it states clearly the following frequency bands:
CDMA: 1851.25-1908.75 MHz (PCS for voice and data only)
iDEN: 806-825 MHz (SMR for PTT dispatch only)
Moto-Talk: 906-928 MHz (off-network Direct Talk only)

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/Vi ... »
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nextel18

Oct 4, 2006, 9:54 AM
I already know it my friend. šŸ˜Ž
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bkw212007

Oct 1, 2006, 9:13 PM
Maybe overall, but not here. I'll stick with iDEN only until they boot me off, if they ever do.
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nextel18

Oct 2, 2006, 5:58 PM
And it will only get better when they put more CDMA infrastructure on IDEN infrastructure and vice versa.
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fairlascali

Oct 11, 2006, 11:29 PM
Sprint/Nextel has already released it's first hybrid phone they released it on October 1, 2006 However it is olny available in certain markets in the united states and also it is not going for 299.99 with a new 2 yr commiment it is actually being offered for 59.99 with a 2 yr commiment srp is some where between 250.00 and 280.00 sorry I can not remember the what the price is but I'll look in to it later
and as far as the network goes if you know any thing about fiber optics then you know that iden was not compatiable with cdma and that is why they have released a hybrid to limited areas they are putting up towers that support both fiber optics and that is how that phone can use the different networks
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Craziecs

Oct 11, 2006, 11:49 PM
there not out yet, they got pushed back till nov 5, and its being released in certain markets and i work in one of those. So come nov. 5 the ic402 and the ic502 will be out. 1st quarter is the nationwide launch. so till then.
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nextel18

Oct 12, 2006, 6:45 AM
That is wrong; it is in November the release of those devices.
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fairlascali

Oct 14, 2006, 9:13 PM
The Hybrid phone was release October 1st and they have a special department setup at nextel to handle the activations, they are not yet on the website but are in fact available through certain channels of the company, and the correction of the pricing is actually 99.99 with a 2yr commiment and 174.99 1 yr also just to let you know they are avaliable to Los
Angeles, Baltimore, New York(north and east), New England, North Philly, South East and Central Florida also in East and West Michigan
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bosoxkid

Oct 4, 2006, 8:46 PM
One of the stores in my area was accidentally shipped 2 ic502s. I got to play with it a bit but it was not active obviously. Sweet phone. The UI is different than the standard Nextel. But it is relatively small and sleek....And the DC button lights up Blue!!!! šŸ˜›
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nextel18

Oct 5, 2006, 8:30 AM
I also like that phone, and it works very well in my area, but if you like this phone wait until next year when the IC902s come into the market.

Have you been getting any requests?
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jareddude42

Oct 12, 2006, 2:54 PM
yeah i saw pictures of the prototype ic902 it looks sick!!! evdo 1.3 mp camera mp3 micro sd with nextels walkie talkie plus the quick flip button is back!! any true nextel fan knows what im talking about on that
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nextel18

Oct 12, 2006, 3:28 PM
Ya. Very true.
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