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quadracer06

Dec 23, 2006, 11:09 PM
I've heard from a couple of friends that you can get just about any CDMA phone on any CDMA carrier, all that you have to do is activate it. If this is true, then can I go out and buy a Samsung Helio, and activate it on the Alltel network. I am very curious to see if this is possible, because as stated many times before, Alltel's phones, blow.

Let me know if this is possible or not worth the time.

Thanks.
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wombough

Dec 24, 2006, 11:17 AM
depends on alltel. Sprint I know will not activate any phone that was not made for them! Verizon I believe is the same way. They could do it they just won't! Alltel may. I know there is a local carrier in Beaufort SC that will activate any cdma phone as long as they can hook it up and program it!
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themps

Dec 24, 2006, 3:21 PM
Yes you can, but things on the phone like pic/vid messaging may not work when you try to send it. Also you won't be able to get axcess web.

You will have to know how to get into the programing menu before you call and have them switch the phone. You will also have to tell them that it is one of the phones they currently have or have had. Just find the closest one with the same manufacturer.
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swq24

Dec 26, 2006, 11:03 PM
mmm.. alltel has made it very clear you may not have a phone that is a non-alltel phone.... the fcc will not let any natinal company do this sorry
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themps

Dec 26, 2006, 11:44 PM
LOL...

It has nothing to do with the FCC. And it is not illegal. Alltel wants you to pay them the money, just like any other cellphone company, instead of getting a phone some where else. Sprint is the worst. They actually keep track of the ESNs they sell.

The bottom line is you can do this. There is nothing wrong with it.
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acculabs

Jan 5, 2007, 9:09 AM
My local alltel office told me that they would activate any CDMA phone that I wanted.

Looks like the policy is location specific. Sorry about you guys that have inflexible local managers.
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krickt

Dec 27, 2006, 4:46 PM
I don't know about Alltel, but I sell USCC, and we had a rash of people buy "unlocked" cdma phones on Ebay, last year. I put them all on existing accounts, and they worked, but the first time they got a signal from their "original" carrier, they reverted to the original carrier's signal, and became roaming on USCC. They couldn't be reprogrammed, or reset, and as long as that phone was online, that plan couldn't use any incoming, nights and weekends, or M2M minutes. Every minute used was charged roaming. So be careful about activating another carriers phone on your line. It could cause more problems than it fixes.
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themps

Dec 27, 2006, 10:41 PM
yes, this can be solved by flashing the phone with USCC or Alltel's firmware, then updating the PRL. The PRL is primary problem. If you have a VZW PRL in a Alltel phone you might have some problems...
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krickt

Dec 28, 2006, 10:54 AM
Like I said, I don't know how Alltel works, I just know that PRL changes are temporary with USCC. You should have seen the mess of a bill several of my customers got.
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foneguy

Jan 2, 2007, 1:26 PM
This is why (if you must purchase a phone not supported directly by your carrier) you NEED to make sure there is a similar phone carried to have that phones firmware flashed to the phone...otherwise you just paid new phone money for a DPC 650. Sure it may look better, but it'll do the exact same things.
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krickt

Jan 3, 2007, 1:49 PM
Most of the phones in question were Kyocera 7135's. Half of them were Alltel, half were Verizon. The Verizon ones were charged roaming every second they were used, the Alltel ones had to be reprogrammed every 2 days, or else they would charge roaming. Good thing was that the phone would tell you if it was charging roaming. Bad thing was that you couldn't fix the Verizon ones no matter what you did. At the time, USCC had just discontinued the 7135, so it should have worked, but it didn't.
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foneguy

Jan 3, 2007, 1:52 PM
Why weren't the phones re-flashed with the USCC firmware? That would've fixed the problem before the phone left the store.
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krickt

Jan 3, 2007, 1:54 PM
The corporate stores won't do it, and they are the only ones with the capability. They would do it if they were from USCC, but if they were from USCC, the custie wouldn't have had to buy the phones elsewhere. I didn't sell the phones, I only put them online. Lowly agents aren't given the privelige of firmware updates.
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soldier_monkey

Jan 5, 2007, 11:22 AM
i know you can activate verizon phones on the alltel network.
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crystal

Jan 5, 2007, 12:12 PM
you have to take it somewhere where it would be able to be reflashed. we all don't just have machines in our stores to reflash firmware. closest place i know is Tulsa, and that's only about four hours away...

i know you can do it over your computer, but i've never been brave enough to actually mess with my firmware on my personal phones. have tried to change the skin on my old razr, but the programs are really sketchy, nonetheless.
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