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ok

Sep 22, 2004, 9:39 AM
what's up man. you seem to be pretty on point with your messages and responses, so answer this for me. Why are my mp3 ringtones playing so low and when will they upgrade the firmware to make it louder. the moto 730 for nextel plays like a jukebox and the whole world can hear the tones
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Sponge

Sep 22, 2004, 9:51 AM
google for mp3gain, and crank it up somewhere between 100 and 103... drop the "current" gain figures into a message here and I can advise further (radio analasys on all tracks)
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ok

Sep 22, 2004, 9:56 AM
when i did it before it was at about 90 and when i changed it i could not tell a significant difference. should i do it again. maybe i did not do it correctly
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Sponge

Sep 22, 2004, 9:59 AM
you have to analyze first then apply the gain.... its 2 operations. 🙂 an increase of 3db "doubles" the loudness factor... what are the bitrates/sampling frequencies of your mp3s also?
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ok

Sep 22, 2004, 10:04 AM
sorry for bieng slow but most of this stuff is foreign to me. i will play with it and see if i can work it out but keep me informed and thank you i will try the two steps you just gave me
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ok

Sep 22, 2004, 10:02 AM
by the way. these are the mp3 that i got from walmart.com. Does this have an impact
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redrockhiker

Sep 22, 2004, 6:16 PM
just ran mp3gain. Analysis yeilded volumes 92, 93, 96.5 etc. Gains were all in the negative numbers -3, -4.2, -7.5. Clicked on Apply track gain. All volume numbers went down to between 88+ thru just under 90. All gain numbers went to zero.

Sponge, please tell me what these numbers mean and does this mean the tracks will play louder now that the gains went up from negative to 0 even though the volum numbers went down?

Thanks
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Sponge

Sep 22, 2004, 6:26 PM
OK, there's a box that says 89.0 in it now... change that to something higher... every "3" up you go it doubles in "loudness" (logarithmic) I find like 97 or so to work fine for most stuff... CDs are mastered with "album gain" at around 89... the numbers were in negative because thats how much it was going to decrease the gain to make them close to 89.0... so change the 89.0 to something like 97 or 100 and apply gain, then try em on the phone...
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redrockhiker

Sep 22, 2004, 7:02 PM
Because they were all originally in the high 90 range: 96, 97,+ I moved them up to 100 and moved to phone. difference was difficult to hear. Re-did at 102 (of course the files did not make it up that high but did get up to 99-101) and increase is now noticeable - but no where near double. However there sounds like a bit of distortion. I am wondering if this results from reducing files (with itunes) to mono to reduce file sizes. Most file sizes are around 119kb (I had tried bring them lower - around 60 but they would not play). Any thoughts?
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Sponge

Sep 22, 2004, 7:27 PM
What is happening is they're clipping (the amp hits its highest output and can't go higher) not much you can do in that case...
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redrockhiker

Sep 22, 2004, 7:40 PM
Do you think a memory sacrifice (returning the files back to stereo 256kb) might reduce the clipping?
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