Motorola V710

So, basiclly the Bluetooth in the automobile acts like a virtual phone and Bluetooth in network portocol. Since Verizon is blocking the ability for phone to phone (pier to pier)networking (OBEX),thus the sharing of infomation, a personal phone will not tranfer the needed infomation to the virtual Bluetooth enabled phone in the automobile to get the functionality needed to make the built in features of the automobile to work. Well I guess the auto industry will not be supporting Verizon. Makes Verizon look arrogant. Hello AT&T and the v600.

Well, there may be a way through "getitnow". I love "getitnow". "getitnow" is the dumbest thing ever.

Well Verizon needs to wake-up, the auto industry appears to be fully committed to Bluetooth and the nations largest mobile phone providers to NO to it. Stopping individuals from fumbling over their phones and being able to view incoming phone ID data on their dashboards and contolling their phone from their steering wheel really has a lot of advantages over any other solution. Verizon has already removed the ability to check my non-hotmail, yahoomail, aolmail now this. I would like to here what would be a way through "getitnow." I know, its called AT&T/Cingular and the v600. If Verizon does not want the tech savy that is fine with me.

im with you, i currently have cingular (my contract is up), my wife has at&t (shes up in a month), we were going to switch to verizon and get a family plan with the added bonus of me getting the 710 once it's out. now that i find out it can't do what i want, forget it. verizon is out of the picture. i think i will be switching to at&t's family plan and going with the v600 or a sonyericsson phone (the SonyEricsson works best with PhoneControl.NET according to the docs).

there is NO way this can work with the silly getitnow, thats not a realtime bidirectional hispeed communications protocol.

Well Cingular has the v600 for $100 bucks less than AT&T and it is in stock. I sort of like AT&T total offerings but $100 bucks is a $100 bucks plus that have the rollover thing. I am in Louisiana and they offer much better coverage than AT&T as well monthly charges about the same.

I think the "get it now" crap is based on SyncML, but your are right it is not a commication protcol in any way. My v60 is on its last legg and my Verizon contract is up, I do have a $100 credit to a new phone available, but I hate a vendor to tell me how I should intergrate technology into my life and that I should do it the "Verizon Way." Way is Verizon even offering Bluetooth then? Just to say they have Bluetooth? If we are going to stuck with a phone for 2 ...
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Why does everyone think that OBEX will not be supported? So far, only one person has commented that it wont be. Any documentation to go along with this? The (rough draft) user manual says that you will be able to sync and transfer data with bluetooth.

There has been other mention on this forum regarding OBEX and the ability to transfer files, data, etc. Plus, there has been nothing to support that the phone will be able to move information from device to device. I am leaning in the direction that the phone will not be able to. Bluetooth is new to Verizon they should realease some infomation. I guess they feel if they loose a few customers so what. Well I have always been a early adopter of technologies and my friends (lots) usually follow suit.

Can V710 still be used to exchange files between your phone and a normal computer, contact lists etc. Also can the V710 be used with some of the MP3 players, such as the Xlive XBM-100, which turn down the music while you are listening if the phone rings and patches the call through the MP3 player? See I drive a motorcycle, and I wanted to use it for if someone calls me while I'm driving, I could be listening to music and it would simply patch it through?

Exchanging files can likely be done by data cable, but it appears not with bluetooth. Basically it seems if any of what you want to do involves bluetooth, the answer is probably no, if you can hook everything together with wires, then maybe. I'm waiting to hear back from the author of some of this type of software to verify OBEX is the standard that's generally used for this sort of interdevice bluetooth communication.

Some of us are in the need of a phone now and discussing this issue helps us decide is it worth the wait and by something that you know will work now (v600).

From all the information I am getting, the V600 is not something that works well. In fact the testing missed so many bugs, you might as well call it Windows ME. The fact of the matter is if you are in this forum you must be thinking about this phone for the reason that it is feature ridden. The V710 which most likely will be out in July, which is what I got from Motorola, will be well worth the wait, with or without OBEX. This phone will be one of the first with mega-pixel technology in the US. Not only that but is being built for the company with currently the largest customer based, ranked number 1 in all categories and has the most coverage in the nation even after the Cingular/AT&T merger. So if you are smart you will wait for the V7...
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Who really cares about the camera. I want a compact communication device that has PIM functions. You can never please everyone there will always be compromises, but do not remove features so you can sell an extra service that really not wanted "get-it-now." That is the issue that I have with Verizon.

...and I want a feature rich, flagship phone that will do high speed comm with my other bluetooth devices in my car. the phone is absolutely *worthless* to me without that. i've already decided to go with at&t and another phone after looking at family pricing plans, that was the nail in the coffin. no OBEX, more expensive family nationwide plans. my parents have the v600 and love the things, my wife wants one too after talking to them. I haven't decided what to go with yet, but it's not the 710 and it's not Verizon.

ok, good news, this may be no big deal, here's the response from the author of the phone control software i intended on using regarding OBEX being required:


No it's not. PhoneControl works with a bunch of AT-Commands which are specified through GSM or CDMA.
So, if this phone still supports the AT-Commands (which I suppose it does, cause it has a Dial up feature built in), you'll be fine.

OBEX is a nice thing but I don't remember having it used eve

Good work robr!! Thanks for your efforts and sharing the results.