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Mobile Phone Tools GOOD FOR NOTHING?

zer0signalff

Jul 22, 2004, 6:01 PM
I was just looking at the motorola section of the BVRP website to find out more about mobile phone tools for th 710 and found out some disturbing news... when you go to look up what phones are compatible, the 710 is listed, which i already expected but what i didnt expect was that it has absolutely no options available...

here is the pdf, you can see it for yourself, please prove me wrong, if this is the case, i dont know what to do, according to this, i cant even back up my phonebook...

http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/mobilephonetools/im ... »
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zer0signalff

Jul 22, 2004, 6:03 PM
follow up...
it doesn't actually have nothing available, it has the "email" and "mms" function available and it also says that the connection method to the program isn't BT, its USB...i'm so confused.
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samkatz

Jul 22, 2004, 6:33 PM
It looks bizarre to me... the little blue sign isnt even there for the 710.

I can't believe they'd make this phone and not have a function to synch your phonebook,calendar, etc. Maybe the manual is wrong or outdated.
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wirehead

Jul 22, 2004, 7:02 PM
samkatz said:
It looks bizarre to me... the little blue sign isnt even there for the 710.

I can't believe they'd make this phone and not have a function to synch your phonebook,calendar, etc. Maybe the manual is wrong or outdated.


You'd be surprised....

Verizon want you to use Verizon branded services for as much functionality as possible. So, as much as possible, they have been restricting the path with which data can enter and leave the phone.

There's some rational business logic at play. The whole thing is that in 2-3 years, especially if the ATTWS/Cingular merger goes through, ATTWS/Cingular will be able to bring an equally good network to bear on Verizon.

This means two things. First, ...
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zer0signalff

Jul 22, 2004, 7:06 PM
do you feel there will be hacked versions of any type of program or just other programs offered that will give us the option to atleast save our phonebook entries? i would like to be able to transfer files to the phone without paying, but that i can live without. i have a vx 6000 now with bitpim and the data cable and i have gone through 3 phones(phone problems, not my fault, gotta love the warranty), each time verizon tried to transfer my phonebook, they screwed up and i had to go and re-transfer my phonebook.
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starcr250

Jul 22, 2004, 7:13 PM
Another possibility is that they haven't been able to test the v710 yet with the latest firmware. And if they have, since the latest firmware is relatively new, they might not have updated it yet.
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wirehead

Jul 22, 2004, 8:10 PM
zer0signalff said:
do you feel there will be hacked versions of any type of program or just other programs offered that will give us the option to atleast save our phonebook entries?


I have no idea.

The one problem is that they already know that folks will try to find ways to get around the locks (gagin anyone? ;) ) so they are probably being extra-careful to block any especially easy ways to install unapproved stuff.
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homer2004

Jul 22, 2004, 8:39 PM
samkatz said:I can't believe they'd make this phone and not have a function to synch your phonebook,calendar, etc. Maybe the manual is wrong or outdated.



God, I certainly hope so! If not, I'm just going to forget I ever heard of the v710 and get the Treo. At these prices, it makes little sense to buy a crippled v710.

Had Sprint's coverage and service not sucked so badly, I would have never switched back to VZW. I really liked my Treo 300.

Verizon had better watch its step because there are quite a few people that won't stand for this type of gamesmanship......not at these prices (if, in fact, what has been stated in this thread is true).
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samkatz

Jul 22, 2004, 8:43 PM
There's a mobile phone tools 1.1 and a 2.0 which Moto sells. I don't know if the downloaded manual linked previously refers to 1 or 2
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jaronspencer

Jul 22, 2004, 8:38 PM
According to this Motorola website

http://commerce.motorola.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/Prod ... »

with Phone Tools 2.0 you can: "Sync contacts and appointments between your PC and your mobile phone while on the go." & it says the "bundle of Bluetooth PC USB Adapter and the mobile PhoneTools version 2.0 is compatible with the Motorola V600 and V710 Bluetooth enabled phones."

Did Motorola even contract with BVRP to create version 2.0? There seems to be a disconnect between websites?
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samkatz

Jul 22, 2004, 8:44 PM
I think you're right..see the post I just put on....we have too many rumors circulating here...
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Level 2

Jul 22, 2004, 11:19 PM
I can confirm that Mobile Phone Tools works with the v710 to:

Back up the phone book. 😁
Sync Calendar and Contacts with Outlook. 🙂
Use the v710 as a modem. 😎

It will NOT:

Function with BT (it activates the BT but does not 'initialize'. 😲
Import or export files off the TransFlash. đŸ‘ŋ
Allow access to media as it does with some other models.

Basically, 'someone' put the clamps on this thing for the initial release.
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dragonmaster

Jul 22, 2004, 11:52 PM
So, can you still plug the transflash card into your computer to transfer media/files back and forth? Have you tried?

Also, which version of Mobile Phone Tools are you using? Is it worth buying?

Thanks
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Level 2

Jul 23, 2004, 12:01 AM
Yes, I have tried many times with different readers. No, it does not allow moving of files, it doesn't even read what is in Moto's file system on the card. đŸ‘ŋ

I am using Mobile Phone Tools 2.x (online upgrades done).
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dragonmaster

Jul 23, 2004, 12:57 AM
Sorry to be annoying, but I'm still in shock... Motorola clearly states that these features are available. You can look at the user manual:

http://commerce.motorola.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/Prod ... »

page 71 states: "The Multimedia Browser allows you to move your files (images, photos, melodies, etc.) from your computer to your mobile phone and vice versa."

The bluetooth kit is supposedly compatible with the V600 and the V710. How can they justify selling a "bluetooth bundle" if it does not work with the phone they're selling it for??

Some changes will undoubtedly occur before the phone is released. Either the phone will be chan...
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samkatz

Jul 23, 2004, 9:34 AM
Thanks level 2. That's enough for me.....

I'm not buying this phone as a camera or mp3 player. Eventually i'm sure it will do everything.

Sounds like the Blue Tooth is a wasteof money and you're better off the the USB data cable.
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bishop1213

Jul 24, 2004, 11:07 AM
I have Phone tools 2.20 , and I have pc laptop running xp. I have a bluetooth usb adapter, I can't get the phone to sync contact info with outlook. when I go to the phone book the phone is not being seen, the phone is paired, even with usb cable I can't get anywhere
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overkast

Jul 24, 2004, 11:27 AM
Oh No!

If you guys can't sync with the PC, then how do we transfer mp3 and pictures to and from the phone to our PC? I thought that was what the Mobile Phone Tools file manager was suppose to be able to do.

Instead of syncing up the phone book, can someone try to transfer MP3s or picture?

Thanks in advance.
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jdstouf

Aug 21, 2004, 3:23 PM
I have successfully sync'd contacts with Lotus Notes V6 🙂

However, it does not allow me to sync my calendar â˜šī¸
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