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asthanas2

Mar 15, 2005, 2:54 AM
Do they make an extended life battery for this Cellphone... Sometimes Battery companies come out w/ one..

Thanks
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pyrofenix

Mar 15, 2005, 9:15 AM
Not yet for this one...maybe eventually.
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Roadkill

Mar 15, 2005, 2:05 PM
Not sure how they'd do that... the current battery fills up the compartment, so unless they also provided a new battery cover along with the new battery I think we're out of luck.

Mine seems to be lasting longer now than it did after I first got the phone. I can go 3 days pretty easily now (vs 1 the first day and 2 for the next 3 charges after that first one) so I suspect that it just needed to be exercised.

I suspect I'm also using it less to play with it, and that probably helps. ;)
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nextascy

Mar 15, 2005, 7:04 PM
this is not true..because just because they fit the compartment doesn't mean they fill the battery up with the best most efficient amount of power. people use different method and battery companies sometime have better technology(go figure) to be able to squeeze more juice out on the same size.
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Roadkill

Mar 16, 2005, 12:33 PM
Battery technology hasn't changed all that much in the last 20 years. While things like chip speed and memory seem to still be obeying Moore's Law, battery technology hasn't improved much at all.

So no, I don't expect to see them "squeeze more juice out of the same size" any time soon. They haven't been able to do it for years, so why would you expect them to be able to suddenly do it now?
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pyrofenix

Mar 16, 2005, 1:00 PM
If that's true an old 486 laptop battery should last about 24 hours on a battery given that my powerbook gets about 3hrs, right?
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Cingular_Dream

Mar 16, 2005, 1:10 PM
i remember my first cell phone. it was the smaller brick of death .. the battery was 6 iches long and like aan inch thick. it had a 2 hour talk life. now the batterys are tiny as hell with 3 timez the amount of talk time.. that was only maybe 10 yearz ago i think the battery times have changed and will continue to do so IMO
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pyrofenix

Mar 16, 2005, 1:34 PM
Exactly.
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nextascy

Mar 16, 2005, 6:18 PM
I don't think this is more an arguement about battery technology more so how many maH a battery of a specific size can hold.

Just like u can buy a bunch of AA battery from different manufacters. Each last longer than the other.

Some includes more maH than other, which gives them more power to last longer, to power your device longer but yet, still in the same AA form.

If you, Roadkill, actually believe the measly 780maH is the largest and most maH battery at that size Sony can buy/make( which would probably make it the most expensive battery they can buy/make), than you need to learn a lil bit more about the business world.
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pyrofenix

Mar 16, 2005, 6:30 PM
I don't think it's the business world he needs to learn but battery tech.
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grafpaper

Mar 16, 2005, 6:58 PM
good example being my Dell Axim Pocketpc. The Battery Dell ships with it is 1200maH. They also sell an extended 2400maH one that is twice as thick. Mugen (A Battery Company) sells a battery the same size as the dell 1200maH one that is capable of holding 2000maH.

I wouldnt be suprised if, in a month or so, some battery manufacturer came out with a battery in the same form factor as the current one with near twice as much power.
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Disciple247365

Mar 16, 2005, 7:38 PM
grafpaper said:
I wouldnt be suprised if, in a month or so, some battery manufacturer came out with a battery in the same form factor as the current one with near twice as much power.

Although I too would like to see this, use of such a battery would more than likely void your warranty unless it is SE branded. â˜šī¸
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grafpaper

Mar 16, 2005, 9:23 PM
probably not... although i may be wrong. I know with Dell, the use of a 3rd party battery does not void the warantee, I would assume many other companies operate this way too.
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nextascy

Mar 16, 2005, 9:57 PM
how are they goin to prove that you're using a different battery?
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pyrofenix

Mar 16, 2005, 10:49 PM
That was going to be my question. If something happens you take it to Cingular with the 'correct' battery and play dumb if they ask you. 😁

There is no proof you used a 3rd party battery. My trust in 3rd party batteries leaves a bit to be desired though. I've gotten a crappy battery for my powerbook that died shortly after I got it...then there is the exploding nokias which have been suspected to be using 3rd party batteries.
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nextascy

Mar 16, 2005, 6:09 PM
umm..in the past 10-15 years...we've move from akaline, to ni-cd, poly ion, to li-ion,soon i'm sure fuel cell and whateva else. So I don't know if you have any idea what you're talking about.

Even say you're right, do u think manufactuers and OEM who make these device, put in the best product and accessories in their phone? Of course not. Just like they don't give you the best headsets, or the biggiest memory stick, they don't give you the best battery. If could be cost factor or profit factor, maybe a little of both.

If they give u a good battery but not a great one, think about the ability for them to be able to sell more product after they get you to buy the phone.

Just think about it.
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