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GO COLTS!!!!!

Digital Pimp

Jan 9, 2005, 12:05 PM
😈 😈 😈 😈

Stuck working and thought I would send a message to the broncos fans....YOUR GOIN DOWN!!!!! 😈
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BetterThanJake

Jan 9, 2005, 6:57 PM
Whoa... that was an amazing game. Peyton lit the Broncs up like... they were a high school squad. Unbelievable. 😳
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muchdrama

Jan 10, 2005, 9:28 AM
BetterThanJake said:
Whoa... that was an amazing game. Peyton lit the Broncs up like... they were a high school squad. Unbelievable. 😳
And he's going to get stopped dead in his tracks by either the Patriots or the Steelers.
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Stevo2k4

Jan 10, 2005, 11:15 AM
muchdrama said:
BetterThanJake said:
Whoa... that was an amazing game. Peyton lit the Broncs up like... they were a high school squad. Unbelievable. 😳
And he's going to get stopped dead in his tracks by either the Patriots or the Steelers.


Steelers.

~Steve
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mwaggs

Jan 10, 2005, 6:37 PM
yup, steelers no doubt
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Digital Pimp

Jan 10, 2005, 11:43 AM
muchdrama said:
BetterThanJake said:
Whoa... that was an amazing game. Peyton lit the Broncs up like... they were a high school squad. Unbelievable. 😳
And he's going to get stopped dead in his tracks by either the Patriots or the Steelers.


Amazing game yes...they said our defense wouldn't be able to stop their offense haha.

Muchdrama haven't you noticed? You can't stop Manning. Holding the record he's the best quarterback in the game. Patriots will be a hard match up...but I think if we beat them..steelers will be like the broncos...dust to be swept away.
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speck

Jan 10, 2005, 11:54 AM
Underestimating the Steelers... They have been amazing all year long... I think whoever the Colts face out of the two it will definitely be worth watching...
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RUFF1415

Jan 10, 2005, 12:29 PM
Are you kidding me?

The Steelers didn't just squash, but they killed the Patriots. The score was 34-20. They killed the Eagles too, the best team in the NFC. That game was 27-3. And in both games the Steelers were 1st and goal for another touch down, but decided to down them. How is that dust to be swept away by the Colts?

You can stop Manning when you're the #1 defense in the league. The Steelers have allowed the least points of any team in the league. They're sacks are rocking too.

Manning can execute passes well. With Roethlisberger, our running game is untouchable, and his passing isn't something to snear at either.

Sooo, I guess we'll see it when it happens. You and your Colts can just keep on underest...
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mk

Jan 11, 2005, 5:34 PM
You're forgetting something about that Halloween game: Cory Dillon didn't play. Take Bettis and Staley out of a Steelers game and see what happens.
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speck

Jan 11, 2005, 5:40 PM
I like Manning... But the Steelers defense is ruthless... I don't even have high hopes for the Colts...

They play the National Champions, Second Ranked Defense...

If they win they play the #1 Defense in the league...

Don't see the Colts going...
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mk

Jan 11, 2005, 5:49 PM
You're assuming the Colts get past the Pats
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 12:33 PM
No I was stating how difficult it would be for them...

They would have to beat the Pats and if they win face the steelers...

So no assumptions just stating doesn't look feasible... Personally I think as most i'm sure it will be between the steelers and the pats (which will be a great game)
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 12:45 PM
Agreed, Pats/Steelers will be a killer game. And low scoring.
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 12:52 PM
But full of hard hard hits... Considering how the two feel about each other...

Steelers feel the pats cheated them

Pats are furious that the steelers stopped their winning streak...

Just thinking about it gets me more pumped than thinking about the super bowl...
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 1:02 PM
speck said:

Steelers feel the pats cheated them



Don't mention this to Ruff 🙂
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:25 AM
speck said:
I like Manning... But the Steelers defense is ruthless... I don't even have high hopes for the Colts...

They play the National Champions, Second Ranked Defense...

If they win they play the #1 Defense in the league...

Don't see the Colts going...
Indy chokes at Foxboro. Done.
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 10:09 AM
It will be a close game, but don't count the Pats out. It's one thing to run indoors in climate controlled surroundings, it's another to run around in the muck in 20 degree snowy Foxboro.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 11:34 AM
mk said:
It will be a close game, but don't count the Pats out. It's one thing to run indoors in climate controlled surroundings, it's another to run around in the muck in 20 degree snowy Foxboro.
It might be a close game, but I have my doubts. I think the Pats defense will absolutely wreak havoc with the Colts offense...again.
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 12:35 PM
Yeahp. i don't see the Pats losing to Indy.
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 12:40 PM
Agreed. Belicheck is definitely in Manning's head.
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RUFF1415

Jan 11, 2005, 9:49 PM
You don't think they have?

Staley was unable to play in quite a few games and Bettis was his replacement. Yes, his replacement. He shattered Staley's total rushing yards. Heck, he even shattered his own total rushing yards from previous seasons.

I'm so sick of hearing how other teams make the excuse that they didn't have their star player (singular) and that's why they lose. The Steelers have been riddled with the most injuries of any team I can think of.

Take for example:

Maddox
Scott
Staley
Burress
Bell
Harding

All of which were starters at the beginning of the season. All of which were unable to play during some point in the season. At one point the Steeler's injured list was occupied by 17 players. Not to menti...
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:28 AM
RUFF1415 said:
You don't think they have?

Staley was unable to play in quite a few games and Bettis was his replacement. Yes, his replacement. He shattered Staley's total rushing yards. Heck, he even shattered his own total rushing yards from previous seasons.

I'm so sick of hearing how other teams make the excuse that they didn't have their star player (singular) and that's why they lose. The Steelers have been riddled with the most injuries of any team I can think of.

Take for example:

Maddox
Scott
Staley
Burress
Bell
Harding

All of which were starters at the beginning of the season. All of which were unable to play during some point in the season. At one point the Steeler's injured list was oc
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Stevo2k4

Jan 12, 2005, 12:09 PM
muchdrama said:
blockquote>And let's not forget how Pitt managed to beat Buffalo with quite a few second and third stringers in there.


Don't bring up bad memories... I was at that game...
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:01 PM
Stevo2k4 said:
muchdrama said:
blockquote>And let's not forget how Pitt managed to beat Buffalo with quite a few second and third stringers in there.


Don't bring up bad memories... I was at that game...
You'll excuse me if I laugh diabolically: Muahahahahahahahah!!! 😉
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sunilsonia

Jan 12, 2005, 12:06 PM
mk said:
....Take Bettis and Staley out of a Steelers game and see what happens.


Look for a surprise this weekend in the rematch with the Jets. I am not knocking the Steelers by any means. I have a great deal of respect for them but I still have to call the upset here as I am a JETS FAN! J-E-T-S Jets!!! Jets!!! Jets!!! Jets!!!.

Steelers fans must recognize that Big Ben, although he has had a tremendous year second in my books only to Manning's 49 TD performance this year, Big Ben did not have a good game against the Jets. Now I know you all will argue that, "Oh but "The Bus (Jerrome Bettis)" did. All I'm saying is the Jets are fresh off of losing that regular season game to your team and vividly re...
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 12:43 PM
I agree, the Steelers are in for a battle. Pennington has to step up.
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sunilsonia

Jan 12, 2005, 12:47 PM
mk said:
I agree, the Steelers are in for a battle. Pennington has to step up.



If the Jets actually do pull off the miracle upset here and wind up in the AFC Championship Game, then the showdowns either way will be classics where you have either a Jets-Patroits or Jets-Colts. I'm still going to say GO COLTS espite being a Jets fans as I know what the realities are.
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 12:51 PM
Sorry... I disagree... The steeler's defense is genius... Personally I go with... Steelers-Pats

Which will be a far better game than any Jets game 😛
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 12:57 PM
Just read the miracle part... lol
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 12:55 PM
You don't think the Jets can beat the Pats?
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sunilsonia

Jan 13, 2005, 3:50 PM
mk said:
You don't think the Jets can beat the Pats?


No, but the Colts will have already taken care of that given the tenuous nature of the Patriots Defense with 3-4 key defensive players questionable-doubtful. By then, this whole point will have been deemed as moot.
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mk

Jan 13, 2005, 4:46 PM
sunilsonia said:
mk said:
You don't think the Jets can beat the Pats?


No, but the Colts will have already taken care of that given the tenuous nature of the Patriots Defense with 3-4 key defensive players questionable-doubtful. By then, this whole point will have been deemed as moot.

You may be right.....If Seymour is out, Indy probably wins. The only way to beat him is to apply pressure, and that's what Seymour does. Teams that blitz him get burned.
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mk

Jan 11, 2005, 5:57 PM
You sound like the Steelers in 2002...remember how they were making plans for the Super Bowl before they played the Pats? And what's worse, after the Steelers were humiliated by the Pats, for a whole year they kept saying they were still the better team, and that the wrong team went to the Super Bowl. And then the first game the very next year was against the Pats.... and the Pats crushed the Steelers again.

I wouldn't have such high hopes, especially with a rookie QB who wasn't playing very well the last 4 weeks. Belicheck feasts on those types of players. You think he makes Manning look bad?
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RUFF1415

Jan 11, 2005, 9:59 PM
I don't recall the Steelers ever saying they were the better team, especially for a whole entire year. And I don't remember the Patriots "humiliating" the Steelers either. The Patriots won the game you are refferring to by a field goal. And even at that, the first attempt by Vinaterri missed, but they got a second attempt after a Steeler fell into Vinaterri after the kick was off.

Quoting Cowher "We don't have any rookies anymore". Roethlisberger has done unbelievably well in his first pro season. He definitely doesn't play the game like a rookie. Even at that, a team shouldn't have to rely entirely on their quarterback. Somethign that the Colts and Manning can't seem not to do.

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mk

Jan 11, 2005, 10:35 PM
Are you kidding? They said it so many times it was sickening. It was all over the national news about how the Steelers were making Super Bowl plans before the Pats game - it was embarrasing. And you have selective memory - remember the opening game the next season when the Steelers played the Pats in Foxboro? The Pats threw 25 straight passes to open the game - it was a blowout until the end - after the Pats pulled some of their starters and the Steelers scored a garbage TD. And the very next week, the team that played the Steelers (can't remember who) copied the Pats - they threw something like 20 straight passes to open the game and beat them again.

Go back and look at the tapes - it wasn't pretty.
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RUFF1415

Jan 11, 2005, 10:54 PM
Must have been that New England media... 🙄

Selective memory? You specifically said that the Patriots "humiliated" the Steelers in the AFC Championship game. The word "humiliated" never was brought up when you mentioned the first game of the 2003 season. I don't see how a loss by 3 points is humiliating, especially when the winning team initially missed the fieldgoal.

Anyway, you do realize that 3 years have passed since then, right? You need to realize that even 1 year can bring a potentially "new" team to the playing field. This is 2005. We'll see how your Patriots do. Until then...
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 7:16 AM
Let's go over this again. They were humiliated twice - in the AFC championship game (Manning with 4 picks and a 35 QB rating), Harrison fumbling because he got hit hard (here we go again - and Indy player wilting under the pressure of a big hit), and manning constantly walking off the field with his arms up in the air as if to say "why me?"

And the second humiliating was when the Steelers palyed the opening game of the 2003 season in Foxborough on Monday night. Remember all offseason how the Steelers complained that the Pats didn't deserve to beat them, and that the Pats didn't deserve to win the Super Bowl? And for weeks the Steelers kept saying how they're gonna go to Foxboro and beat the Pats to prove they were the better team? Rem...
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 7:19 AM
Correction - my last post shouldn't have said the Colts were humiliated twice - it was once by the Colts and once by the Steelers.

Although the Steelers got spanked twice by the Pats, no getting around that one.
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RUFF1415

Jan 12, 2005, 3:43 PM
How many times do I have to repeat myself.

How is losing by three points on a field goal that was initially missed getting "spanked"?
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:47 PM
mk said:
Correction - my last post shouldn't have said the Colts were humiliated twice - it was once by the Colts and once by the Steelers.

Although the Steelers got spanked twice by the Pats, no getting around that one.

The Steelers picked up garbage at the end of both games. And remember, Flowers cheap-shotted Brady and put him out of the game. The Steelers couldn't beat the Pats in Pittsburg without Brady...think about that. No wonder the Steelers couldn't live with themselves after losing.

And the second game was worse - they lost by 14 only because they scored a garbage touchdown after the Pats pulled some starters.
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RUFF1415

Jan 11, 2005, 10:59 PM
By the way, most of us here know that the Steelers don't have the reputation to do such a thing as make Super Bowl plans in advance.

Quoting Cowher again: "The important thing to do is take everything one game at a time. We'll deal with what happens as it comes."

Now I'll admit that Steeler fans on the other hand do get a little excited when it comes to playoffs/Superbowl time.

I really don't know where you're getting this "national news" load.
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 7:18 AM
Bonehead - they did!! Again, it was all over the national news 3 years ago how much the Steelers were disrespecting the Pats prior to that game. You have amnesia. And you lost that game. Man, you are a true homer.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:32 AM
mk said:
Bonehead - they did!! Again, it was all over the national news 3 years ago how much the Steelers were disrespecting the Pats prior to that game. You have amnesia. And you lost that game. Man, you are a true homer.
No homer cracks here...but I do seem to remember some of the Steelers players whining to the media. It was all over the national news, especially ESPN.
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 10:12 AM
Well that's my point as well, but Digital Pimp seems to have blocked that from his memory.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 11:36 AM
mk said:
Well that's my point as well, but Digital Pimp seems to have blocked that from his memory.
Well, he was understandably upset by the constant losing. ;)
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 12:43 PM
Denial is more like it
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RUFF1415

Jan 12, 2005, 3:41 PM
No denial here. The Steelers were, are, and always will be awesome in my mind. Win or lose.

I'm am being totally and whole-heartedly honest when I say that I never heard any of those "national" reports about Steeler trash talk. ESPN must have skipped airing those segments in Pittsburgh for fear of losing all of the devoted Steeler fans from their broadcasts. But I'll go with it. The Steelers trash talked the Patriots...

Anyway, back to the real argument. I still don't see how the Steelers are "dust to be swept away" by the Patriots. That's honestly a good laugh.

Maybe it is denial. Denial that it ends at 21. And the Steelers were the ones to do it... Aw. 😢
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:43 PM

Anyway, back to the real argument. I still don't see how the Steelers are "dust to be swept away" by the Patriots. That's honestly a good laugh.

The Pats/Steelers game will really be a tossup - two great defenses, and the game in Pittsburg. I think the Pats would win, but what a battle that will be.

Two intagibles fo to the Pats - Belicheck and Manning. Home crowd to the Steelers. Yikes.
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:43 PM
that should have read Belicheck and Brady.
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 4:11 PM
You're right about that... Both teams will have to play their hearts out... Man that's gonna be a great game.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:04 PM
RUFF1415 said:
No denial here. The Steelers were, are, and always will be awesome in my mind. Win or lose.

I'm am being totally and whole-heartedly honest when I say that I never heard any of those "national" reports about Steeler trash talk. ESPN must have skipped airing those segments in Pittsburgh for fear of losing all of the devoted Steeler fans from their broadcasts. But I'll go with it. The Steelers trash talked the Patriots...

Anyway, back to the real argument. I still don't see how the Steelers are "dust to be swept away" by the Patriots. That's honestly a good laugh.

Maybe it is denial. Denial that it ends at 21. And the Steelers were the ones to do it... Aw. 😢
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RUFF1415

Jan 12, 2005, 11:22 PM
Wouldn't get uppity if others didn't.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 2:51 PM
mk said:
Well that's my point as well, but Digital Pimp seems to have blocked that from his memory.


Have no idea what your talking about here at all. I have nothing blocked from memory. All of the teams in the playoffs right now are a threat...Colts murdered the broncos. The pats will be a good game. The steelers will be an even better game. Their defense is toughest in the league..but we have a faster defense. Sometimes that wins bowl games. So keep up the Colt bashing...I hope to come back on here and stuff it in your face. 😈
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 2:58 PM
My apologies, it was Ruff who is the big steelers fan, and you're the Colts fan.

Manning will choke again. It's pretty much a given that the Colts are the biggest bunch of crybabies going - how else do you exlpain a rule change directly as a result of their crying last year after losing (again) to the Pats, which helped Manning break Marino's record? Without that rule change, he doesn't throw 49 TD's.

Their gonna need a fast defense this week. Fast doesn't mean diddly unless you have enough of them. Freeney is the only one with speed.

Any bets on what they'll cry about this year after losing again? Too many loud people? Grass is not green enough? People look at them funny? Footballs not at the right temperature? Goalposts...
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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 3:07 PM
mk said:
My apologies, it was Ruff who is the big steelers fan, and you're the Colts fan.

Manning will choke again. It's pretty much a given that the Colts are the biggest bunch of crybabies going - how else do you exlpain a rule change directly as a result of their crying last year after losing (again) to the Pats, which helped Manning break Marino's record? Without that rule change, he doesn't throw 49 TD's.

Their gonna need a fast defense this week. Fast doesn't mean diddly unless you have enough of them. Freeney is the only one with speed.

Any bets on what they'll cry about this year after losing again? Too many loud people? Grass is not green enough? People look at them funny? Footballs not at the
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:26 PM
Because the rule change only affected the Colts right??? It may have helped Peyton, true, but it helped everyone else as well. Too bad no one else even came close to Peyton or Dan's record right? Where were you guys at?

Yeah...and as Ron Artest demonstrated if people look at us wrong, we definitely don't cry. RIGHT?? 😈



Come on man, even Marino did all he could to hold back on Inside the NFL when they asked him this question. Manning has been in the league 8 years, and all of a sudden he breaks the record? Yeah it helped everyone, but you don't think the Colts were the biggest beneficiaries of that rule change? Of course the refs are most attuned to it when the Colts play - they were the wussbags ...
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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 3:29 PM
mk said:
Because the rule change only affected the Colts right??? It may have helped Peyton, true, but it helped everyone else as well. Too bad no one else even came close to Peyton or Dan's record right? Where were you guys at?

Yeah...and as Ron Artest demonstrated if people look at us wrong, we definitely don't cry. RIGHT?? 😈



Come on man, even Marino did all he could to hold back on Inside the NFL when they asked him this question. Manning has been in the league 8 years, and all of a sudden he breaks the record? Yeah it helped everyone, but you don't think the Colts were the biggest beneficiaries of that rule change? Of course the refs are most attuned to it when the Colts p
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:34 PM
So if the rule helps lets say...the steelers...your ok with it...correct? It happens with all people like you...you hate it until it helps one of your favorite teams win... Then you make the excuse of...oh well it was the COLTS idea!!!

Nope, I'm not OK with it for any team - you're missing the point. This is football, not knitting class. What's next - no trash talking because it might bruise the Colts' egos?

Did you see the Seahawks game Saturday? There were at least ridiculous calls because of that new rule, and it changed the outcome of the game - even the commentators were going nuts about it. All because the Colts couldn't stand losing to the Pats last year. They're a digrace.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 3:36 PM
mk said:
Because the rule change only affected the Colts right??? It may have helped Peyton, true, but it helped everyone else as well. Too bad no one else even came close to Peyton or Dan's record right? Where were you guys at?

Yeah...and as Ron Artest demonstrated if people look at us wrong, we definitely don't cry. RIGHT?? 😈



Come on man, even Marino did all he could to hold back on Inside the NFL when they asked him this question. Manning has been in the league 8 years, and all of a sudden he breaks the record? Yeah it helped everyone, but you don't think the Colts were the biggest beneficiaries of that rule change? Of course the refs are most attuned to it when the Colts p
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:39 PM

You know, the Colts have always been about playing the game fairly or "by the book". Others may interpret that as us being "crybabies" or "whiners", I interpret that as being fair and respectable. That is who Tony Dungy is. Yes, Peyton has been in the league for 8 years, but maybe he just needed the right teammates and leader to achieve this record. He has said himself that it is more of a "team accomplishment" than it is an individual one. How's that for weak?

Then how is it that only the Colts cried last year? Tennesee and Carolina didn't cry after losing to the Pats, did they? Pretty sad when you have to lobby the league for a rule change knowing that's the only way you have a shot at winning it all.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 3:42 PM
mk said:

You know, the Colts have always been about playing the game fairly or "by the book". Others may interpret that as us being "crybabies" or "whiners", I interpret that as being fair and respectable. That is who Tony Dungy is. Yes, Peyton has been in the league for 8 years, but maybe he just needed the right teammates and leader to achieve this record. He has said himself that it is more of a "team accomplishment" than it is an individual one. How's that for weak?

Then how is it that only the Colts cried last year? Tennesee and Carolina didn't cry after losing to the Pats, did they? Pretty sad when you have to lobby the league for a rule change knowing that's the only way you have a sh
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:45 PM
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If you think that rule helped us win this year then YOU go back and look at the tapes...seriously. Enough of the bashing and we'll see what happens....I bet your favorite football team isn't even in the playoffs...

Um..if you haven't figured it out yet, my team is the Pats. Or did that one somehow get by you?
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 4:03 PM
Digital Pimp said:
.. I bet your favorite football team isn't even in the playoffs...
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Mine's not... ☹️

As far as the Colts/Pat thing you guys got going...

As much as I agree the NFL has been releasing some off the wall rules lately... It's noreason to discredit an accomplishment...

Peyton is one of the best QB's I have seen in a long time... Despite what is said he has an accuracy and speed that is as explosive as it is graceful... Peyton Manning earned the right of 49-TD's...

As far as the rule goes, it wasn't just the Colts to push for the rule... They may have brought everyone's attention to it... But many teams spoke for the rule... It's like when steroids first started gettin...
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 4:36 PM
Very well said!

I disagree on the rule change though - it's widely recognized that the Colts were the initiators and prime drivers, and some other teams glommed on once it was out there. Football has been played the same for years until the Colts squealed like stuck pigs.

Did you see the episode of Inside the NFL when they asked marino if Manning would have broken the record without the rule change? A picture is worth a thousand words, and sometimes what you don't say tells you more than anything.
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 4:46 PM
They did bring attention to it I agree... But others felt the same way, they were just the first to say it...

The NFL is always changing, New rules are being created, and every year there's a controversy... it's really what to expect.

Yeah I saw that episode, but they put Marino on the spot with that and nobody wants their record broken... Remember though Marino did come back and congratulate Peyton for his accomplishments... because regardles of the rule... Peyton played his heart out for those 49 TD's... It took talent.

When the rule was created I doubt Peyton was sitting there going "I'm going to break marino's record now!"

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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 4:54 PM
speck said:
They did bring attention to it I agree... But others felt the same way, they were just the first to say it...

The NFL is always changing, New rules are being created, and every year there's a controversy... it's really what to expect.

Yeah I saw that episode, but they put Marino on the spot with that and nobody wants their record broken... Remember though Marino did come back and congratulate Peyton for his accomplishments... because regardles of the rule... Peyton played his heart out for those 49 TD's... It took talent.

When the rule was created I doubt Peyton was sitting there going "I'm going to break marino's record now!"

Remember when Mark McGuire broke the Home Run record? The next thing t
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:19 PM
Digital Pimp said:
speck said:
They did bring attention to it I agree... But others felt the same way, they were just the first to say it...

The NFL is always changing, New rules are being created, and every year there's a controversy... it's really what to expect.

Yeah I saw that episode, but they put Marino on the spot with that and nobody wants their record broken... Remember though Marino did come back and congratulate Peyton for his accomplishments... because regardles of the rule... Peyton played his heart out for those 49 TD's... It took talent.

When the rule was created I doubt Peyton was sitting there going "I'm going to break marino's record now!"

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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 5:07 PM
No doubt Manning is great, I just have a problem with this rule change. The Seahawks game was a joke with the penalties they were calling, all as a result of this rule.

It was funny watching Marino squirm - he gave a classy answer.
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 6:37 PM
Yeah, I agree.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:21 PM
mk said:
No doubt Manning is great, I just have a problem with this rule change. The Seahawks game was a joke with the penalties they were calling, all as a result of this rule.

It was funny watching Marino squirm - he gave a classy answer.
That's because as fiery and competitive as Marino was on the field...he's a class act in person (even if he's been known to be a little snippy at times).
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mk

Jan 13, 2005, 7:30 AM
muchdrama said:
mk said:
No doubt Manning is great, I just have a problem with this rule change. The Seahawks game was a joke with the penalties they were calling, all as a result of this rule.

It was funny watching Marino squirm - he gave a classy answer.
That's because as fiery and competitive as Marino was on the field...he's a class act in person (even if he's been known to be a little snippy at times).

As a Pats fan, I hated marino when he played (naturally, right?). But he says all the right things....although I really wnated him to say what he really felt when they asked him the question about Manning.
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muchdrama

Jan 13, 2005, 9:31 AM
mk said:
muchdrama said:
mk said:
No doubt Manning is great, I just have a problem with this rule change. The Seahawks game was a joke with the penalties they were calling, all as a result of this rule.

It was funny watching Marino squirm - he gave a classy answer.
That's because as fiery and competitive as Marino was on the field...he's a class act in person (even if he's been known to be a little snippy at times).

As a Pats fan, I hated marino when he played (naturally, right?). But he says all the right things....although I really wnated him to say what he really felt when they asked him the question about Manning.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:17 PM
The NFL is always changing, New rules are being created, and every year there's a controversy... it's really what to expect.
Well, they changed a rule that had kept the league more competitive for quite some time. It definitely benefited teams that have heavy pass attacks.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:15 PM
As much as I agree the NFL has been releasing some off the wall rules lately... It's noreason to discredit an accomplishment...

Peyton is one of the best QB's I have seen in a long time... Despite what is said he has an accuracy and speed that is as explosive as it is graceful... Peyton Manning earned the right of 49-TD's...
Sorry speck, but Manning's achievement is a direct result of the league changing a rule that had been in effect for years.
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 8:56 AM
If you think that rule helped us win this year then YOU go back and look at the tapes...seriously. Enough of the bashing and we'll see what happens....I bet your favorite football team isn't even in the playoffs...
🙄

So Digital Pimp, what's the excuse this year? How humiliating was it being a Colts fan last night? What rule change do you think the Colties will cry for this year?

I don't expect a response because if I were a Colt fan, I'd have already purged this one from memory.

Yeah, I'm being smug, but you brought it on yourself.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 17, 2005, 11:19 AM
mk said:
If you think that rule helped us win this year then YOU go back and look at the tapes...seriously. Enough of the bashing and we'll see what happens....I bet your favorite football team isn't even in the playoffs...
🙄

So Digital Pimp, what's the excuse this year? How humiliating was it being a Colts fan last night? What rule change do you think the Colties will cry for this year?

I don't expect a response because if I were a Colt fan, I'd have already purged this one from memory.

Yeah, I'm being smug, but you brought it on yourself.



Hmmmm...I rooted for my home team....So Good job to the pats. Guess the rule that you kept whining about didn't help the co...
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 11:40 AM
Digital Pimp said:
mk said:
If you think that rule helped us win this year then YOU go back and look at the tapes...seriously. Enough of the bashing and we'll see what happens....I bet your favorite football team isn't even in the playoffs...
🙄

So Digital Pimp, what's the excuse this year? How humiliating was it being a Colts fan last night? What rule change do you think the Colties will cry for this year?

I don't expect a response because if I were a Colt fan, I'd have already purged this one from memory.

Yeah, I'm being smug, but you brought it on yourself.



Hmmmm...I rooted for my home team....So Good job to the pats. Guess the rule that yo
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Digital Pimp

Jan 17, 2005, 12:01 PM
mk said:
Digital Pimp said:
mk said:
If you think that rule helped us win this year then YOU go back and look at the tapes...seriously. Enough of the bashing and we'll see what happens....I bet your favorite football team isn't even in the playoffs...
🙄

So Digital Pimp, what's the excuse this year? How humiliating was it being a Colts fan last night? What rule change do you think the Colties will cry for this year?

I don't expect a response because if I were a Colt fan, I'd have already purged this one from memory.

Yeah, I'm being smug, but you brought it on yourself.



Hmmmm...I rooted for my home team....So Good job to the
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 12:06 PM
Spoken by a true loser!!! Oh, the refs cost us the game - you friggin baby. You obviously turned off the game after the first half. Read it and weep - even the Indy Star called the Colts a fraud.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/210185-6598-092.html »

Bye bye, see you next year. I'll send you a video of the Super Bowl parade in Boston.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 17, 2005, 12:11 PM
mk said:
Spoken by a true loser!!! Oh, the refs cost us the game - you friggin baby. You obviously turned off the game after the first half. Read it and weep - even the Indy Star called the Colts a fraud.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/210185-6598-092.html »

Bye bye, see you next year. I'll send you a video of the Super Bowl parade in Boston.


And if the pats don't win...I'll be sure to rub it in YOUR face. Till then ta taa whiner..
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 12:26 PM
Very good, bring it on. Remember, we've got two recent Super Bowls. We don't choke. We don't cry to the refs (like Dungy does before every game to make sure they enforce the new rule - and that's a fact, by the way). We don't bitch to the league when we lose. We're all about class. And winning.

Ya, that makes me a whiner.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 17, 2005, 12:16 PM
mk said:
Spoken by a true loser!!! Oh, the refs cost us the game - you friggin baby. You obviously turned off the game after the first half. Read it and weep - even the Indy Star called the Colts a fraud.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/210185-6598-092.html »

Bye bye, see you next year. I'll send you a video of the Super Bowl parade in Boston.


And by the way...if the colts are such a fraud and also suck, why back in September did the pats Win only 27-24? yeah...told.
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 1:01 PM
And by the way...if the colts are such a fraud and also suck, why back in September did the pats Win only 27-24? yeah...told.


Here's why they suck - read it.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/facts/011705pos ... »

You can't possibly come back with an answer, unless you're just yahooing as an Indy fan.
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 1:10 PM
Digital Pimp said:
mk said:
Spoken by a true loser!!! Oh, the refs cost us the game - you friggin baby. You obviously turned off the game after the first half. Read it and weep - even the Indy Star called the Colts a fraud.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/210185-6598-092.html »

Bye bye, see you next year. I'll send you a video of the Super Bowl parade in Boston.


And by the way...if the colts are such a fraud and also suck, why back in September did the pats Win only 27-24? yeah...told.
Only one thing matters in the NFL. Winning.
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 1:11 PM
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 1:12 PM
Only one thing matters in the NFL. Winning.

A concept clearly lost on Digital Pimp
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 1:00 PM
Digital Pimp said:
mk said:
Digital Pimp said:
mk said:
If you think that rule helped us win this year then YOU go back and look at the tapes...seriously. Enough of the bashing and we'll see what happens....I bet your favorite football team isn't even in the playoffs...
🙄

So Digital Pimp, what's the excuse this year? How humiliating was it being a Colts fan last night? What rule change do you think the Colties will cry for this year?

I don't expect a response because if I were a Colt fan, I'd have already purged this one from memory.

Yeah, I'm being smug, but you brought it on yourself.



Hmmmm...I rooted
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 1:03 PM
If the score doesn't convince you Indy was demolished, then look at a couple of key stats: Indy averaged 32.3 points a game during the regular season (and scored 45 against Denver), but somehow they managed to score only 3 points against possibly the best defense in the NFL. Stat number 2: Manning threw 49 touchdowns during the regular season, and against the Pats he threw 0. That's zilch. Nada. Nothing. Choke! The Pats are the equivalent of the Florida Gators. There are some teams that Manning just can't find his way around.

Check out this link (I also attached it to my previous reply to Digital):

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/facts/011705pos ... »
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 1:41 PM
mk said:
If the score doesn't convince you Indy was demolished, then look at a couple of key stats: Indy averaged 32.3 points a game during the regular season (and scored 45 against Denver), but somehow they managed to score only 3 points against possibly the best defense in the NFL. Stat number 2: Manning threw 49 touchdowns during the regular season, and against the Pats he threw 0. That's zilch. Nada. Nothing. Choke! The Pats are the equivalent of the Florida Gators. There are some teams that Manning just can't find his way around.

Check out this link (I also attached it to my previous reply to Digital):

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/facts/011705pos ... » couldn't ha...
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2005, 2:59 PM
Sorry, but I couldn't just let this go.

The Steelers have the #1 defense in the league. You can't even say that Pats "possibly" have the best defense.
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 3:26 PM
RUFF1415 said:
Sorry, but I couldn't just let this go.

The Steelers have the #1 defense in the league. You can't even say that Pats "possibly" have the best defense.

You're correct, the Steelers do have the best defense. But the Patriots are 2nd in the league (behind Pittsburgh) in points allowed, and Belicheck can nuetralize any offense. Which leads to Big Ben - if Manning couldn't figure him out, I'm not sure Rothlesberger can either. Remember, he looked bad against the Jets, and he didn't look good the last few games during the season.

Pittsburg MUST go up early to win; you can't expect Rothlesberger to come from behind on the Pats.
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2005, 4:58 PM
Order number one.

SPELL PITTSBURGH CORRECTLY!!!

Sorry, but the "h" is a big deal to us Pittsburghers.

I agree that its not going to be an easy game...for either team. BUT we all know that offense sells tickets (except in Pittsburgh, anything and everything sells tickets) and defense wins the game. Looking back to that Halloween game it looks as if the Pats had a hard time against the Steeler defense. Harder of a time than the Steelers had against the Pats defense. So I think its going to break down to the battle of the defenses.

And...Ben definitely has to play better than he did against the Jets, but I think some of that came with being off a week. You know, playing cold. I'm expecting him to step it up n...
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mattrand

Jan 17, 2005, 5:07 PM
GO PATS
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 8:02 PM
I'm expecting him to step it up next week and I definitely have the faith that he'll handle the Pats and Belicheck just fine.
Muahahahahahahahaahahah (in case you're wondering, that's nefarious laughter...I think Peyton heard it too just as he was taking the field in Foxboro)!
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speck

Jan 17, 2005, 8:17 PM
I understood you disregarding the Colts... They were no match for the Pat defense... But you cannot disregard the one team that stopped the pats winning streak in a game where the defense systematically tore apart the pats offense...

I'm not saying it will be a one sided game for either side... But the Pats are not invincible, the steelers have proven this earlier this season... and have an opportunity to prove it again.
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 10:47 PM
speck said:
I understood you disregarding the Colts... They were no match for the Pat defense... But you cannot disregard the one team that stopped the pats winning streak in a game where the defense systematically tore apart the pats offense...

I'm not saying it will be a one sided game for either side... But the Pats are not invincible, the steelers have proven this earlier this season... and have an opportunity to prove it again.
Like I said. Belicheck is never taken by surprise twice. Pats win in Pitt.
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2005, 10:12 PM
Don't be such an a.ss. Honeslty.
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 10:50 PM
RUFF1415 said:
Don't be such an a.ss. Honeslty.
Go on. Say it. ASS. See? Didn't burst into flame. And it's honestly.

P.S. Pats win in Pitt.
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2005, 11:26 PM
Its PITTSBURGH for Christ's sake! Pitt is a college team...

By the way, thanks Miss Cleo.
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BetterThanJake

Jan 18, 2005, 5:18 AM
Hey, at least he didn't say that they were 'playing in the Pit'. 🙂

In any case, it should be one hell of the game. And no offense intended to Philly or Atlanta fans, but the AFC Championship will probably be the true SuperBowl this year.
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muchdrama

Jan 18, 2005, 11:06 AM
BetterThanJake said:
Hey, at least he didn't say that they were 'playing in the Pit'. 🙂

In any case, it should be one hell of the game. And no offense intended to Philly or Atlanta fans, but the AFC Championship will probably be the true SuperBowl this year.

Whoa now...Philly's the real deal.
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BetterThanJake

Jan 18, 2005, 2:25 PM
They'll need T.O. to beat either the Pats or the Steelers... and he won't be fully healthy in time.
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muchdrama

Jan 18, 2005, 2:31 PM
BetterThanJake said:
They'll need T.O. to beat either the Pats or the Steelers... and he won't be fully healthy in time.
I don't think they'll need him at all.
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muchdrama

Jan 18, 2005, 11:02 AM
RUFF1415 said:
Its PITTSBURGH for Christ's sake! Pitt is a college team...

By the way, thanks Miss Cleo.
I was born in Pittsburgh. Lived there till I was 7, in fact. Whether it's pro or college it doesn't matter...you can refer to the team as being from "Pitt". See how I abbreviated the city's name? Now go harrass someone that actually spelled it wrong.

P.P.S. Pats win in Pitt.
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 7:56 PM
mk said:
RUFF1415 said:
Sorry, but I couldn't just let this go.

The Steelers have the #1 defense in the league. You can't even say that Pats "possibly" have the best defense.

You're correct, the Steelers do have the best defense. But the Patriots are 2nd in the league (behind Pittsburgh) in points allowed, and Belicheck can nuetralize any offense. Which leads to Big Ben - if Manning couldn't figure him out, I'm not sure Rothlesberger can either. Remember, he looked bad against the Jets, and he didn't look good the last few games during the season.

Pittsburg MUST go up early to win; you can't expect Rothlesberger to come from behind on the Pats.
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 7:52 PM
RUFF1415 said:
Sorry, but I couldn't just let this go.

The Steelers have the #1 defense in the league. You can't even say that Pats "possibly" have the best defense.
I CAN say the Pats have the best defense, whether or not the Steelers were ranked #1. The Pats defense is a true team defense...held together by some mystic, Foxboro mojo. And this coming from a Dolphins fan...I should burst into flame.
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 11:59 AM
On a side not, has Vernderjerk said anything since the game? He said they were going to the AFC championship game, but now he'll need a ticket.

Oh, this feels good!
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:11 PM
Digital Pimp said:
mk said:
Because the rule change only affected the Colts right??? It may have helped Peyton, true, but it helped everyone else as well. Too bad no one else even came close to Peyton or Dan's record right? Where were you guys at?

Yeah...and as Ron Artest demonstrated if people look at us wrong, we definitely don't cry. RIGHT?? 😈



Come on man, even Marino did all he could to hold back on Inside the NFL when they asked him this question. Manning has been in the league 8 years, and all of a sudden he breaks the record? Yeah it helped everyone, but you don't think the Colts were the biggest beneficiaries of that rule change? Of course the refs
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 9:22 PM
I disagree... Reason being, it didn't have a huge impact on any other qtr back's stats. The rule applied for everyone but only Peyton made 49TD's.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:41 PM
speck said:
I disagree... Reason being, it didn't have a huge impact on any other qtr back's stats. The rule applied for everyone but only Peyton made 49TD's.
Here's a good case in point...Brian Griese had a good year (or at least better than he's had in the past few seasons). A direct result of the rule. That's right. Brian Griese
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 9:56 PM
Right... But no record breaker... I'll agree the rule changed the way the game is played... as do all... I agree with you there...

But... I still believe 49 TD's is impressive... Rule or no rule... There is incredible talent involved...
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muchdrama

Jan 13, 2005, 9:25 AM
speck said:
Right... But no record breaker... I'll agree the rule changed the way the game is played... as do all... I agree with you there...

But... I still believe 49 TD's is impressive... Rule or no rule... There is incredible talent involved...
There's definitely talent involved. But just as Barry Bonds should have an asterik (is it asterik? my spelling's suddenly going here) next to his name in the record books...I think fans should always remember how Manning benefited from a major rule change.
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mk

Jan 13, 2005, 7:32 AM
speck said:
I disagree... Reason being, it didn't have a huge impact on any other qtr back's stats. The rule applied for everyone but only Peyton made 49TD's.

I'll go out on a limb here that will surely generate debate. While your point makes sense, it's only human nature for the refs to be more sensitive to the new rule during games involving the Colts - they were the ones who cried for it. I do think it benefited them more than any other team.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:27 AM
mk said:
You sound like the Steelers in 2002...remember how they were making plans for the Super Bowl before they played the Pats? And what's worse, after the Steelers were humiliated by the Pats, for a whole year they kept saying they were still the better team, and that the wrong team went to the Super Bowl. And then the first game the very next year was against the Pats.... and the Pats crushed the Steelers again.

I wouldn't have such high hopes, especially with a rookie QB who wasn't playing very well the last 4 weeks. Belicheck feasts on those types of players. You think he makes Manning look bad?
But if anyone does have a chance against the Pats...it's the Steelers. Belichek will have cooked...
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 10:10 AM
I'm scared of the Steelers as well, but not because of their offense. Their defense scares me, and everyone knows that's what wins in the postseason.
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 11:35 AM
mk said:
I'm scared of the Steelers as well, but not because of their offense. Their defense scares me, and everyone knows that's what wins in the postseason.
Case in point: The 2000 Baltimore Ravens...all defense, no offense.
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 12:42 PM
I read something yesterday that showed every team for the past 10 years that won the Super Bowl (except the '97 or '98 Broncos) was in the top 5 in defense that year. Tells ya something. Indy is in trouble, and that's why the Steelers actually have a chance.
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 12:48 PM
Are you saying that Indy being in trouble is the only reason Steeler's have a chance?

OR

Steeler's have a chance because of their D?
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 12:57 PM
The second - the Steelers can win it all with their defense regardles of what Indy or New England does. The Pats have the best chance of beating the Steelers.
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speck

Jan 12, 2005, 12:59 PM
Agreed.
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muchdrama

Jan 10, 2005, 2:07 PM
Digital Pimp said:
muchdrama said:
BetterThanJake said:
Whoa... that was an amazing game. Peyton lit the Broncs up like... they were a high school squad. Unbelievable. 😳
And he's going to get stopped dead in his tracks by either the Patriots or the Steelers.


Amazing game yes...they said our defense wouldn't be able to stop their offense haha.

Muchdrama haven't you noticed? You can't stop Manning. Holding the record he's the best quarterback in the game. Patriots will be a hard match up...but I think if we beat them..steelers will be like the broncos...dust to be swept away.
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speck

Jan 10, 2005, 2:22 PM
I like Manning... I think he brings alot to the game... You know he's a "big plays" type of Quarter back... But I agree... I don't see him doing much against Steelers & Patriots... Both have exceptional D... The Colts just lack the weapons to take on both defenses... Which leaves to question... Who has a shot at the Super Bowl... The Pats and Steelers will have to play each other before the bowl... So who will be the versus? Any suggestions?
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BetterThanJake

Jan 10, 2005, 5:46 PM
muchdrama said:
The Pats have the same secondary as last year.

Not exactly. They're riddled with injuries:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-po ... »
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muchdrama

Jan 10, 2005, 7:55 PM
BetterThanJake said:
muchdrama said:
The Pats have the same secondary as last year.

Not exactly. They're riddled with injuries:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-po ... » true. And they've somehow managed to perform at a level similar to last year. Factor in the freezing weather...and I really think Manning will choke.
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lexical

Jan 17, 2005, 10:50 AM
Whoo boy, how bout them Pats... The murdered the colts like OJ on a rampage... seriously though, I like the Colts and wanted them to at least make it to the Super Bowl... Ah well...
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 11:42 AM
lexical said:
Whoo boy, how bout them Pats... The murdered the colts like OJ on a rampage... seriously though, I like the Colts and wanted them to at least make it to the Super Bowl... Ah well...


Now for the Steelers...that will be a helluva game, but I see the Pats winning. It won't be the humiliation you saw with the Colts yesterday, but it will be close. Rookie QB's struggle against Belichek, and Rothlesberger didn't look very good against the Jets.
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speck

Jan 17, 2005, 11:46 AM
It will be a good game... I can't wait for it... On a sidenote... Atlanta crushed St. Louis... I'm still hoping for an Atlanta Super Bowl.
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 11:56 AM
Either Philly or Atlanta will make it a good Super Bowl. Unfortunately, I don't see Atlanta beating Philly - not that I care either way.
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speck

Jan 17, 2005, 11:57 AM
Dunno... 300+ rushing yards... That's impressive... Philly will have their hands full
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 11:59 AM
Yup, too close to call.
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 1:08 PM
speck said:
Dunno... 300+ rushing yards... That's impressive... Philly will have their hands full
Running for 300 yards against the Eagles is another whole ball game.
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speck

Jan 17, 2005, 1:14 PM
What do the Eagles have besides mcnabb against atlanta?
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 1:46 PM
speck said:
What do the Eagles have besides mcnabb against atlanta?
A ferocious defense that absolutely will not stop until Vick is unconscious. Like I said, running for 300 something yards against the Rams defense (which is atrocious), and running against the Eagles for that many yards are two totally different things. Factor in the cold (I don't care what anyone says...dome teams DO NOT do well in cold weather), 80,000 screaming bloody maniac fans, and the fact that Vick is inconsistent at times...and you've got a recipe for a certain Philly win. You heard if here first.
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BetterThanJake

Jan 17, 2005, 2:22 PM
muchdrama said:
What do the Eagles have besides mcnabb against atlanta?
A ferocious defense that absolutely will not stop until Vick is unconscious.
I like Vick, but I have to agree here. I still remember that Brian Dawkins hit that laid Vick out in the last Philly-Atlanta playoff game. Its a night-and-day difference between St. Louis D and Philly D.
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 7:50 PM
BetterThanJake said:
muchdrama said:
What do the Eagles have besides mcnabb against atlanta?
A ferocious defense that absolutely will not stop until Vick is unconscious.

I like Vick, but I have to agree here. I still remember that Brian Dawkins hit that laid Vick out in the last Philly-Atlanta playoff game. Its a night-and-day difference between St. Louis D and Philly D.Well if Jake says it...and I say it...it must be gospel.
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BetterThanJake

Jan 17, 2005, 8:50 PM
muchdrama said:
Well if Jake says it...and I say it...it must e gospel.


True dat 🙂
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coldsteel

Jan 17, 2005, 12:19 PM
Ya think? As craptacular as Philly looked, they'd better be on top of everything to handle the Falcons.
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mk

Jan 17, 2005, 12:26 PM
Absolutely, too close to call - but home field is the slight edge that probably puts Philly over the top.
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sunilsonia

Jan 17, 2005, 12:43 PM
mk said:
Either Philly or Atlanta will make it a good Super Bowl. Unfortunately, I don't see Atlanta beating Philly - not that I care either way.


I strongly beg to differ.....and history sides with me on this one.
2002 - RAMS over PHI 29-24....ok so the Eagles were on the road for this one and so they wouldn't strongly favored to win right. OK, I'll give you this one.
2003 - TB 27 PHI 10.....and the world thought that TB couldn't win in the cold weather, nevertheless bring down the Vet! Then again the wrath of Chucky (a.k.a John Gruden) was present on the coaching staff.

2004 - PANTHERS 14 PHI 3.....the first NFC Championship Game in the new stadium but the same ol' Egales. They just might need s...
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speck

Jan 17, 2005, 12:58 PM
don't forget duckett... Atlanta has the triple threat... Eagles will have to keep Vick at bay and cover Duckett and Dunn... Only passing teams ever see number like 300 yards... Atlanta pulled this feat in rushing yards... I understand homefield advantage... But the cold is not a factor... Vick has played in the cold before... They load him down with heating pads.
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 1:25 PM
sunilsonia said:
mk said:
Either Philly or Atlanta will make it a good Super Bowl. Unfortunately, I don't see Atlanta beating Philly - not that I care either way.


I strongly beg to differ.....and history sides with me on this one.
2002 - RAMS over PHI 29-24....ok so the Eagles were on the road for this one and so they wouldn't strongly favored to win right. OK, I'll give you this one.
2003 - TB 27 PHI 10.....and the world thought that TB couldn't win in the cold weather, nevertheless bring down the Vet! Then again the wrath of Chucky (a.k.a John Gruden) was present on the coaching staff.

2004 - PANTHERS 14 PHI 3.....the first NFC Championship Game in the new stadium but the sam
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sunilsonia

Jan 17, 2005, 4:46 PM
muchdrama said:
sunilsonia said:
mk said:
Either Philly or Atlanta will make it a good Super Bowl. Unfortunately, I don't see Atlanta beating Philly - not that I care either way.


I strongly beg to differ.....and history sides with me on this one.
2002 - RAMS over PHI 29-24....ok so the Eagles were on the road for this one and so they wouldn't strongly favored to win right. OK, I'll give you this one.
2003 - TB 27 PHI 10.....and the world thought that TB couldn't win in the cold weather, nevertheless bring down the Vet! Then again the wrath of Chucky (a.k.a John Gruden) was present on the coaching staff.

2004 - PANTHERS 14 PHI 3.....the first NFC Championship
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muchdrama

Jan 17, 2005, 7:58 PM
sunilsonia said:
muchdrama said:
sunilsonia said:
mk said:
Either Philly or Atlanta will make it a good Super Bowl. Unfortunately, I don't see Atlanta beating Philly - not that I care either way.


I strongly beg to differ.....and history sides with me on this one.
2002 - RAMS over PHI 29-24....ok so the Eagles were on the road for this one and so they wouldn't strongly favored to win right. OK, I'll give you this one.
2003 - TB 27 PHI 10.....and the world thought that TB couldn't win in the cold weather, nevertheless bring down the Vet! Then again the wrath of Chucky (a.k.a John Gruden) was present on the coaching staff.

2004 - PANTHERS 14
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BetterThanJake

Jan 10, 2005, 12:02 PM
muchdrama said:
BetterThanJake said:
Whoa... that was an amazing game. Peyton lit the Broncs up like... they were a high school squad. Unbelievable. 😳
And he's going to get stopped dead in his tracks by either the Patriots or the Steelers.

Probably going to have to be the Steelers. The Pats secondary is pretty banged up right now.

Then again, Belichick is a defensive genius. But I don't know that the Pats have ever faced an offense that was clicking this well with the patchwork secondary they have now.
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muchdrama

Jan 10, 2005, 2:11 PM
BetterThanJake said:
muchdrama said:
BetterThanJake said:
Whoa... that was an amazing game. Peyton lit the Broncs up like... they were a high school squad. Unbelievable. 😳
And he's going to get stopped dead in his tracks by either the Patriots or the Steelers.

Probably going to have to be the Steelers. The Pats secondary is pretty banged up right now.

Then again, Belichick is a defensive genius. But I don't know that the Pats have ever faced an offense that was clicking this well with the patchwork secondary they have now.
Don't forget the absolutely freezing weather Manning's going to face if they visit Foxboro. Manning does not play well...
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mk

Jan 11, 2005, 5:38 PM
Anyone care to see how much Manning and the rest of the wussie boys from Indy cry after losing to NE again this year? What new rule can they convince the league to pass this year? Maybe no saying mean things to the other team? Or maybe no tackling any Colt player so they don't get an ouchie?
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 9:25 AM
mk said:
Anyone care to see how much Manning and the rest of the wussie boys from Indy cry after losing to NE again this year? What new rule can they convince the league to pass this year? Maybe no saying mean things to the other team? Or maybe no tackling any Colt player so they don't get an ouchie?
Don't you love how they convinced the Commish to change the downfield contact rule for receivers? Whiners.
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 10:08 AM
Exactly my point - there should be a big ol' asteric next to Manning's 49 TD record that says "got it because we cried hard enough to change the rules so my receivers wouldn't get ouchies if hit by the other team".
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 11:32 AM
mk said:
Exactly my point - there should be a big ol' asteric next to Manning's 49 TD record that says "got it because we cried hard enough to change the rules so my receivers wouldn't get ouchies if hit by the other team".
He's about to get his first real test of the season vs the Pats. Swirling cold, slippery turf, 80,000 absolutely insane New England fans...teehee. Can you say "choke"?

P.S. I'd also love to point out that he also choked in all four games he played my beloved Gators.
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 12:39 PM
I think he'll play well, especially with Law, Poole, and possibly Seymour out. That really hurts the Pats. But I still think he'll lose.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 2:54 PM
muchdrama said:
mk said:
Anyone care to see how much Manning and the rest of the wussie boys from Indy cry after losing to NE again this year? What new rule can they convince the league to pass this year? Maybe no saying mean things to the other team? Or maybe no tackling any Colt player so they don't get an ouchie?
Don't you love how they convinced the Commish to change the downfield contact rule for receivers? Whiners.


Which only one team cannot get that approved. Duhhhhhh More than one team AND the commission has to approve it. Duhhhhh
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muchdrama

Jan 12, 2005, 8:56 PM
Digital Pimp said:
muchdrama said:
mk said:
Anyone care to see how much Manning and the rest of the wussie boys from Indy cry after losing to NE again this year? What new rule can they convince the league to pass this year? Maybe no saying mean things to the other team? Or maybe no tackling any Colt player so they don't get an ouchie?
Don't you love how they convinced the Commish to change the downfield contact rule for receivers? Whiners.


Which only one team cannot get that approved. Duhhhhhh More than one team AND the commission has to approve it. Duhhhhh
Hey genius, the particular game in question was the game that stirred the NFL to...
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mk

Jan 13, 2005, 7:27 AM
And my point is that football has been played that way since the game began. Why all of a sudden does one team have to cry about it just because they lost (again) to the same team?
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muchdrama

Jan 13, 2005, 9:29 AM
mk said:
And my point is that football has been played that way since the game began. Why all of a sudden does one team have to cry about it just because they lost (again) to the same team?
It's an example of the NFL pandering to star players. The league gets better ratings when teams run up the score. It certainly takes some integrity away from the game.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 3:01 PM
muchdrama said:
BetterThanJake said:
muchdrama said:
BetterThanJake said:
Whoa... that was an amazing game. Peyton lit the Broncs up like... they were a high school squad. Unbelievable. 😳
And he's going to get stopped dead in his tracks by either the Patriots or the Steelers.

Probably going to have to be the Steelers. The Pats secondary is pretty banged up right now.

Then again, Belichick is a defensive genius. But I don't know that the Pats have ever faced an offense that was clicking this well with the patchwork secondary they have now.
Don't forget the absolutely freezing weather Manning's going to face if they visit
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:20 PM
But unfortunatley for Manning, his record says he chokes in cold weather in the playoffs. You are what you are. A playoff record of 4-5 isn't exactly inspirng.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 12, 2005, 3:24 PM
mk said:
But unfortunatley for Manning, his record says he chokes in cold weather in the playoffs. You are what you are. A playoff record of 4-5 isn't exactly inspirng.


Actually alot of quarterbacks "choke" in cold weather...Cold weather affects all players...not just manning. Have you ever been affected by cold weather..it happened to me once... 😳
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mk

Jan 12, 2005, 3:28 PM
Then how do you explain Brady at 6-0 in the playoffs, in snowstorms, in -14 degree weather (last year against the Titans), in the slop, etc? Good quarterbacks find ways to win in the playoffs. Manning is 4-5; your argument is very weak.
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Rich Brome

Jan 18, 2005, 3:16 PM
This kind of thing doesn't belong in this forum. Please keep messages like this confined to the Lounge forum.

Thanks!
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rep1of2000

Jan 19, 2005, 8:30 PM
I think the flames will kick all yer arses! going to the cup! woooooooooot! 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😎
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