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Open Debate: Verizon Not #1? Phones? Answers here

d2alio

Mar 17, 2005, 3:32 PM
For the guy (or lady) that said that Verizon won't be #1 you need to take in the facts.

1) There are different "categories" as far as what #1 defines. For example, #1 in Customer Satisfaction, #1 Customer base, #1 Network, etc. It's true that with the recent AT&T/Cingular merge that they do (and probably will maintain for a while) the #1 customers. But, it took a MERGER just to do that. They would no way have gotten more customers than Verizon any other way.

2) #1 customer amount does not determine #1 network, which Verizon will maintain for quite some time. If I'm not mistaken I can recall news stories from unhappy customers stating that with the merger that the all ready "horrible" service got worse. Cingular/ATT does not have a stro...
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Grantizzle

Mar 17, 2005, 3:40 PM
d2alio said:
For the guy (or lady) that said that Verizon won't be #1 you need to take in the facts.

1) There are different "categories" as far as what #1 defines. For example, #1 in Customer Satisfaction, #1 Customer base, #1 Network, etc. It's true that with the recent AT&T/Cingular merge that they do (and probably will maintain for a while) the #1 customers. But, it took a MERGER just to do that. They would no way have gotten more customers than Verizon any other way.

2) #1 customer amount does not determine #1 network, which Verizon will maintain for quite some time. If I'm not mistaken I can recall news stories from unhappy customers stating that with the merger that the all ready "horrible" service got worse.
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nextel18

Mar 17, 2005, 3:42 PM
very well said.
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d2alio

Mar 17, 2005, 3:43 PM
In addition, lets brake down some of each individual's company's strongest points and weakest points. However, "network" is still what it all comes down too.

Verizon Wireless
+ Largest Network
+ Fewest Dropped Calls (proven)
+ Highest Customer Service Satisfaction
+ Highest Customer Service Loyalty
+ Best Network in the US

- Usually the last to come out with phones
- Slightly more expensive (but you get what u pay for)
- Only 1 current global phone for GSM/CMDA

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Nextel
+ Leading industry in walkie-talkie connectivity
+ Excellent for businesses with large field reps

- The SMALLEST cell phone network in the US
- The WORST cell phone reception in the US
- Extremely expensive

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Sprint
+ S...
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Grantizzle

Mar 17, 2005, 3:46 PM
t-mobile does have huge financial backing from it parent company in europe.
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nextel18

Mar 17, 2005, 3:49 PM
so does verizon wireless with vodaphone and verizon and same with cingular with sbc and bell south.
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howardk111

Mar 17, 2005, 3:59 PM
Catherine Zeta Jones does it for me. I'd follow her to any carrier.
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nextel18

Mar 17, 2005, 3:47 PM
i said, as the numbers were from 2004 if they continue to be the same in 2005 that yes, verizon wont be number 1, but over the long term i think verizon could become number one spot, however, it will be tough.

verizon's EV-do service isnt that fast, and plus cingular/att wireless will have umts/hsdpa/wcdma which will be faster then DO especially REV O that verizon is launching.

it will be a very competitive marketplace and i think it shall be interesting of what comes out.
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d2alio

Mar 17, 2005, 3:49 PM
personally until you see the final product it's all hype and I doubt that Cingular will be able to release a product that Verizon won't be able to beat because it comes down to how much money a company can invest in their own network and Verizon also leads in that category.

And I forgot about T-Mobile's european company but that's a good point. I can see T-Mobile over the long run slowly climbing but I don't think that Cingular will ever take it because I think they dug themselves a hole with the merger.
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d2alio

Mar 17, 2005, 3:51 PM
It's like the PS2, Xbox, etc. Developers always release ridiculous specs on their products before they come out, but when it does come it's usually nothing close.

Verizon nothing released anything on their Broadband before it was released. They waited for REALISTIC numbers. Right now, Cingular and another companies stating numbers is just a ploy to try to grab attention away from Verizon. They are desperate. Businesses do it all the time. But, like i said, until we see it you shouldn't believe anything you read.

The razr was suppose to have been the "wave of the future" but that phone was just garbage and plagued by a million problems. it's all hype
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nextel18

Mar 17, 2005, 4:01 PM
"personally until you see the final product it's all hype and I doubt that Cingular will be able to release a product that Verizon won't be able to beat because it comes down to how much money a company can invest in their own network and Verizon also leads in that category. "

i just said. hsdpa is faster then DO REV O . everyone was saying that REV O was supposed to be very fast, on paper, however verizon is only advertising it to be from 400-600kb/s as well as other sources. (DO rev O is supposed to be up to 1.5mb/s and its not. so thats hype too and "theoretical".) (http://informationweek.networkingpipeline.co m/news/56900280)" The call used High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) technology that, proponents claim, will offer theoreti...
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nextel18

Mar 17, 2005, 4:07 PM
this is for you though....

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050315/cltu052_2.html »

""Attaining 50 million customers is a key indicator that our merger with AT&T Wireless is working and working robustly," said Stan Sigman, Cingular's president and chief executive officer. "Fifty million customers, which is over three million more than we had as of October 1 of last year, means that nearly three of every 10 current U.S. wireless subscribers are now Cingular customers."

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000223036489/ »

"Former top dog Verizon Wireless probably wasn’t too happy to hear about this, but the other day Cingular announced that they’d signed up their 50 millionth subscriber (Verizon is actually still a close second, with 43.8 mill...
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VZWVan

Mar 17, 2005, 4:11 PM
nextel18 said:
this is for you though....

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050315/cltu052_2.html »

""Attaining 50 million customers is a key indicator that our merger with AT&T Wireless is working and working robustly," said Stan Sigman, Cingular's president and chief executive officer. "Fifty million customers, which is over three million more than we had as of October 1 of last year, means that nearly three of every 10 current U.S. wireless subscribers are now Cingular customers."

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000223036489/ »

"Former top dog Verizon Wireless probably wasn’t too happy to hear about this, but the other day Cingular announced that they’d signed up their 50 millionth subscriber (Verizon is actually s
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nextel18

Mar 17, 2005, 9:31 PM
"Cingular isn't 6.2 million customers ahead though. Their 50 million figure is something they just attained and announced instantly, so that everyone would know. "

oh get over it. they are and you know it.

"Their 50 million figure is something they just attained and announced instantly, so that everyone would know. "

so do you announce somethings thats true, or something that isnt? come on now.


"Verizon's 43.8 million figure is as of the end of last quarter, 2 1/2 months ago (December 31).

The real gap is more like 4-5 million, since VZW will have 45-46 million customers by the end of this quarter."



no they have 43.8 Million.(http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/a boutUs/index.jsp?cm_re=Home%20Page*Top%20Nav* About%20Us...
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CingularguyinTN

Mar 17, 2005, 4:50 PM
lol i love the it took a merger from them to beat out verizon lol how do you think verizon got so big through mergers. 🤣
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